Personhood Amendments

[Moonlit_Angel]

Gotcha.

Yeah, that was mainly frustration on my part. I'm just tired of seeing stupid people like Akin and whatnot comment on this topic. It'd be nice to get men who know what they're talking about, and it'd be really nice to hear more women's comments on this issue.

[cobl04]

I do love that "have a way of shutting that whole thing down" has become a meme.

[Moonlit_Angel]

I'm just glad to see that Akin got raked over the coals for his comments. He's still clearly an idiot who doesn't see where he went wrong, but most people realize how moronic he is.

I guess another thing about my earlier outburst is this: while it's true that you don't have to have firsthand experience with something to know about it, this is one issue where I just tend to feel really squicky about men getting too involved in. It's such a personal thing for women, and so it's strange to hear men talk about and obsess over making laws regarding something that is so personal. And then when they're blatantly ignorant and offensive about it to boot? That just makes it even worse, and even creepier.

[MrsSpringsteen]

Paul Slansky: Paul Ryan Said Something That Should Force Him Off the Ticket, But You Probably Didn't Hear About It


Last week, Paul Ryan gave an interview in which, defending his position that there should be no excuses for abortion, he referred to rape as a "method of conception."

Wow, right? Talk about a benign euphemism. Rape -- RAPE! -- is now a "method of conception." You know, like love-making, just without the love.

[corianderstem]

I can't bring myself to get any more worked up about that than other stuff. I know what he means. He could have picked a more delicate way of saying "some pregnancies are a result of rape," but at least that's a true statement and not something that's utterly incorrect, like "blah blah blah shutting that down."

I obviously disagree with his views on the topic, but it's not like he's saying "oh, rape ... it's just another way of conceiving a child, what's the big deal?"

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by cobl04

I do love that "have a way of shutting that whole thing down" has become a meme.

LEGITIMATE: Shutting The Whole Thing Down from Jennefer Ludwigsen and Hilary Barraford

[Moonlit_Angel]

I would be really, really, REALLY happy to not hear Republicans use the word "rape" again anytime soon, regardless of the context.

[MrsSpringsteen]

Well if he's still ahead in the polls I guess many people agree with him. He also recently said that Claire McCaskill used to be more "ladylike". So the govt sticking its nose into pregnancy and rape and ladyparts is fine and won't get us into huge trouble? Let me write that down...

Huffington Post

Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.), the Senate candidate that drew criticism in August after making the inaccurate claim that the victims of "legitimate rape" can force their bodies to avoid pregnancy, also believes it's fair for employers to pay women less than men.

"I believe in free enterprise. I don't think the government should be telling people what you pay and what you don't pay," Akin said at a town hall meeting on Thursday. The comment came in response to a question about Akin's decision to vote against the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009, which has made it it easier for women to challenge unequal pay.

"I think it's about freedom," Akin added. "If somebody wants to hire somebody and they agree on a salary, that's fine, however it wants to work. So, the government sticking its nose into all kinds of things has gotten us into huge trouble."

Closing the female pay gap has proved difficult in recent decades. In the second quarter of 2012, the median female worker's earnings amounted to just 80 percent of the median male worker's earnings, according to the Labor Department, not much more than the 75 percent they earned in 1989, according to a separate study.

Though women more often work in lower-paying industries than men, some employers have been found to pay women less for equal work. Female chief executives earn roughly 72 percent of what their male counterparts make.

Akin has stayed in the Senate race in spite of calls from a number of Republican politicians to bow out. He currently leads his opposition, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), by one percentage point, according to the latest poll. McCaskill recently released the video of Akin's remarks on female pay.

[Irvine511]

What Akin does -- like,say, Temt Lott's comments from a few years back about segregation -- I that he speaks out loud what liberals imagine conservatives say to one another behind closes doors.

[PhilsFan]

His position sincerely seems to be, "Americans should be free to discriminate against women."

[deep]

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A relaunched website and television ad campaign paid for by Missouri Senate candidate Rep. Todd Akin (R) urges lady Missourians to declare,
“I’m a women and I support Todd. 70 cents on the dollar is better than nothing !”
Raw Story (Akin urges lady Republicans to declare: ‘I’m a women’ | The Raw Story)

[MrsSpringsteen]

Paul Ryan also voted against the Ledbetter act, as did numerous other Republicans

[Moonlit_Angel]

Gee, this Akin guy sounds like a real charmer! Is he married, by any chance?

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by PhilsFan

His position sincerely seems to be, "Americans should be free to discriminate against women."

if we don't, then that's like saying gender doesn't exist.

[Pearl]

A relaunched website and television ad campaign paid for by Missouri Senate candidate Rep. Todd Akin (R) urges lady Missourians to declare,
“I’m a women and I support Todd. 70 cents on the dollar is better than nothing !”
Raw Story (Akin urges lady Republicans to declare: ‘I’m a women’ | The Raw Story)

Not only is his knowledge of biology lousy, but so is his spelling.

[Moonlit_Angel]

It's time for another round of "GOP Politicians Being Offensively Stupid and Not Knowing About Women's Health Issues!" Today we have the esteemed Joe Walsh of Illinois weighing in:

Congressman says abortions never necessary to save life of mother | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

You know, it's one thing to be pro-life, that position in and of itself does have some merit. But for cripes' sake, what in the hell kind of schools did these people go to to get this kind of moronic, ignorant thinking?

Also, can we please, please, PLEASE, for the love of God, get some female politicians weighing in on this issue already?

[Pearl]

Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel

You know, it's one thing to be pro-life, that position in and of itself does have some merit. But for cripes' sake, what in the hell kind of schools did these people go to to get this kind of moronic, ignorant thinking?

Also, can we please, please, PLEASE, for the love of God, get some female politicians weighing in on this issue already?

But we're too emotional to rationalize a situation. Our menstrual cycles prevent us from thinking properly, and its even worse when we go through menopause. C'mon, Angela. Don't you realize a woman's limitations?

[Moonlit_Angel]

I always seem to forget, I guess. Silly me, thinking we should have a say in something that directly affects us.

Plus, a female politician who was speaking on this issue in Michigan was told to stop because she dared utter the word "vagina", so if we can't even get that far, then I guess I shouldn't expect anything further with that.

(I do love how these politicians who think they can make all these laws on this sort of topic can't seem to handle hearing a woman say the word "vagina". You're legislating something you don't want discussed in public? Okay.)

[anitram]

Just another troglodyte. The simplest example are ectopic pregnancies which are not rare. One almost killed my mother on her 3rd pregnancy.

It's shocking that people in this day and age can be that ignorant.

[Caleb8844]

I was just talking about this with my father. We're both pretty ignorant on the specifics of this situation, so could someone give an example as to a situation where an abortion would be necessary to save the life of the mother?