Personhood Amendments

[cobl04]

Pot, kettle

[MrsSpringsteen]

More than likely he's only doing it because he's worried about the Presidential election

[anitram]

New Rasmussen Poll from yesterday has McCaskill up 48-38 over Akin.

[corianderstem]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1822618.html

This shitbird realizes that shooting the woman to stop abortion would also likely kill the fetus ... right?

Unless he's talking about "deadly force" against the doctor. In which case, the guy is still a scary shitbird who should be called out from the rooftops about this disgusting comment.

If anyone saw this story from another source, I'd like to see it, because part of me hopes that this isn't quite what happened or quite what he said, but I realize these days, that's unlikely.

[yolland]

^ He did issue a retraction FWIW, it's in a link at the beginning of the local paper article which is linked at the bottom of your article. Still, anyone who "lets his imagination get out of control" like that (as he put it) sure wouldn't get my vote for sheriff, or anything else.

[corianderstem]

Thanks. Missed that (obviously). Glad to see that was more or less an actual apology and not some bullshit "I was taken out of context" or "sorry you were offended" faux-apology.

It just gets me to no end that public figures keep coming out and saying horrible stuff like this - it's flat-out incorrect, or it's dangerous and threatening, or whiningly comparing the Akin "pile on" to gang rape.

How hard is it to frigging think before you speak? Think for two seconds about how what you're saying is going to come across! This is the level of public leadership in this country?

[anitram]

Here is another source - not that it suggests anything materially different.

Sheriff candidate says he wouldn't reject deadly force to stop abortions | Politics - WMUR Home

This is the best part:

Szabo said he doesn't have any background in law enforcement, but he said his business background gives him the experience to run for the position of sheriff.

[deep]

Originally Posted by anitram

New Rasmussen Poll from yesterday has McCaskill up 48-38 over Akin.

that is the type of poll that can lead to a GOP win, is it trustworthy?


the best thing for the GOP would be for Akin to bow to the pressure and step down. I guess the new dead line is Sept 21. and when that passes, he can still withdraw, but his name will be on the ballot.

I have to believe if he withdraws the GOP easily wins because many people will want to support the GOP for doing the right thing

[anitram]

Originally Posted by deep

that is the type of poll that can lead to a GOP win, is it trustworthy?

Frankly I find it suspect and I wouldn't at all be surprised if it's biased with the intention of getting him to drop out.

[Popmartijn]

Originally Posted by deep

I have to believe if he withdraws the GOP easily wins because many people will want to support the GOP for doing the right thing

Which is? Prohibiting abortion even in the case of rape? Because that's what the GOP wants to be added to the constitution ( G.O.P. Approves Strict Anti-abortion Language in Party Platform - NYTimes.com ). And is what Paul Ryan has been supporting all the while (often in co-operation with Akin).

[Moonlit_Angel]

Originally Posted by corianderstem

Thanks. Missed that (obviously). Glad to see that was more or less an actual apology and not some bullshit "I was taken out of context" or "sorry you were offended" faux-apology.

It just gets me to no end that public figures keep coming out and saying horrible stuff like this - it's flat-out incorrect, or it's dangerous and threatening, or whiningly comparing the Akin "pile on" to gang rape.

How hard is it to frigging think before you speak? Think for two seconds about how what you're saying is going to come across! This is the level of public leadership in this country?

Agree wholeheartedly with this. This sort of insanity needs to stop, and it needs to stop now.

I just love it when supposedly "pro-life" people talk about killing others to protect the unborn. Like those assholes who bomb, or support bombing, abortion clinics.

As for Akin, I hope he loses, and loses big. And then he needs to not run for any sort of office ever again.

[deep]

Originally Posted by Popmartijn

Which is? Prohibiting abortion even in the case of rape? Because that's what the GOP wants to be added to the constitution ( G.O.P. Approves Strict Anti-abortion Language in Party Platform - NYTimes.com ). And is what Paul Ryan has been supporting all the while (often in co-operation with Akin).

Which is saying there is no place for a person that once used the term 'legitimate' rape on TV. Even if that person now says he was wrong.
The GOP believes all rape is wrong, always. period

this is only a Senate race in small state with an unpopular incumbent

As for Ryan, he is on the ballot in Missouri as a V P candidate
Romney/ Ryan will easily win Missouri.
Because a candidate says something stupid, that does not mean he should step down, especially when he admits it.

Should Obama have stepped down when he said 'people were clinging to their guns and religion' ?

[yolland]

There are varying degrees of stupid and "If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down" isn't the kind of stupid either party is likely to reckon they can spin as 'Aw, he just misspoke' or 'This is being taken out of context.' But I agree with you it could be a boon for the GOP if he did step down.

[corianderstem]

Yes, I have to admit it was nice to see both sides of the issue uniting as one to say:

"Dude, what? No. Just ... no."

[deep]

it really is not an 'in kind' agreement


the GOP only wants him out because they think he went from a sure winner to a probable/ possible loser. They were counting this senate seat as a win.

As for the 'legitimate' rape or 'forcible' rape language
that is about wanting an iron clad rape exception for abortion.

They don't want hussies walking in to abortion clinics saying, 'Three months ago I got drunk and passed out, so just check off the rape category. How long will this take I need to update my FB status'.

[deep]

Originally Posted by anitram

Frankly I find it suspect and I wouldn't at all be surprised if it's biased with the intention of getting him to drop out.

“Rasmussen’s poll made me laugh out loud,” McCaskill wrote on Twitter. “If anyone believes that, I just turned 29. (She is 59). Sneaky stuff.”

Read more here: McCaskill derides poll showing her leading Akin by 10 points - KansasCity.com

henceforth, Rasmssen's polls will deserve no consideration

[yolland]

The Atlantic, Aug. 23

Mike Huckabee declared his support for Todd Akin staying in the race against Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill in an email Thursday, Politico's Alexander Burns reports. "Who ordered this 'Code Red' on Akin?" Huckabee wrote, saying Akin had "owned his mistake" and that the Republican Party has betrayed the Missourian. "If Todd Akin loses the Senate seat, I will not blame Todd Akin," Huckabee writes.

The Republican Party has sometimes seemed to be in a civil war between fiscal conservatives and social conservatives, and you can find evidence for that in the language Huckabee uses:

"From the spotlights of political offices and media perches, it may appear that the demand for Akin’s head is universal in the party. I assure you it is not. There is a vast, but mostly quiet army of people who have an innate sense of fairness and don't like to see a fellow political pilgrim bullied...It wasn't just Todd Akin that was treated with contempt by the thinly veiled attack on Todd Akin. It was all the people who have faithfully knocked doors, made calls, and made sacrificial contributions to elect Republicans because we thought we were welcome in the party."

Akin first apologized for his "legitimate rape" comment on Huckabee's radio show, and announced he was staying in the race there, too. Evangelical tempers are flaring over Akin's comments and how the GOP responded. On Monday, the Family Research Council's Tony Perkins warned Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown to be "careful" with his criticism of Akin. Reacting to the Huckabee email, Iowa evangelical leader and radio host Steve Deace tweeted, "To those who think Romney should remove Huckabee's convention speech over Akin, I promise you Romney will lose election if he does that." Earlier Deace urged the "GOP establishment" to "Grow up. Show unity. Be team players." His latest tweet is a little more forceful. Deace also posted on his site a story titled, "Romney-Ryan Campaign Is Wrong on Abortion." The ticket supports a rape exception to a ban on all abortions.

Update: Another clue Akin's in for good? Republicans had considered switching Akin with Ann Wagner, who's running for his House seat. Wagner put out a statement Thursday saying there will be no switch.

[deep]

I still say it is possible for him to win
in Missouri.

[Moonlit_Angel]

There is a vast, but mostly quiet army of people who have an innate sense of fairness and don't like to see a fellow political pilgrim bullied...It wasn't just Todd Akin that was treated with contempt by the thinly veiled attack on Todd Akin.

Oh, yes, the poor man has suffered so.

Shut up, Huckabee.

(The phrase "have an innate sense of fairness" in relation to the situation with Akin made me laugh. That is some funny stuff right there.)

[BEAL]

I sincerely hope that none of Steve Deace's daughters ever experience anything close to rape. Its so easy to judge other people or tell others what they should do until it happens to someone they care about.

He should have stuck to sports radio where he was quite good and entertaining. Now he's another profile from Iowa that we have to be embarrassed about.