Osama Bin Laden is dead. - Page 10

LuckyNumber7 · 05-02-2011, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

Finance guy, don't you think if he wasn't dead, he'd just release another video saying "nope, I'm not dead"? At some point, the conspiracy nonsense gets pretty ridiculous

Yeah I brought this up to a few people about the whole conspiracy thing.

It's a very real possibility that they have pre-taped propaganda knowing that Osama could die any day, to be honest.

Either way, the United States would be incredibly stupid to pretend as though Osama was dead when he was not. I'm almost certain he's dead (just my opinion). However, there's certainly fair reason to believe that the ways of his demise could have happened in any way ranging from suicide, decline in health, or anything of the less sort exciting, morale-boosting sort.

trojanchick99 · 05-02-2011, 01:26 AM

So, here's a twitter feed from a man in Abbottabad. Eerie. Twitter

LuckyNumber7 · 05-02-2011, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by mama cass

on UK news they're saying bin Laden once said he would never be taken alive and would die fighting...

Doesn't surprise me. He's probably shooting for martyrdom status.

It's completely dependent on the situation. Was he intentionally shot, or hit by random firefight bullets?

And by that I mean did someone take aim at him? I have a feeling that Navy SEALs would have the ability to tranquilize him if they really wanted to or were able to, leading me to believe that he was killed in crossfire.

PhilsFan · 05-02-2011, 01:31 AM

Indications seem to be that there was a firefight.

mama cass · 05-02-2011, 01:32 AM

i wondered what was going on yesterday - we were at Disneyland Paris Saturday and Sunday with the kids - on Saturday during the day going into the parks there was no special security, but then on Sunday night going into Planet Hollywood suddenly there was all this security with bag scanners, and then going into Disney on Sunday morning it was a different vibe altogether as the security checks were much heavier compared with the day before, again with bag scans in a separate tent that wasn't there the previous day, felt kind of worrying to be honest... maybe heightened security on possible American interests abroad??

kind of worried about the backlash... hope things don't go crazy...

LuckyNumber7 · 05-02-2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by PhilsFan

Indications seem to be that there was a firefight.

Right, but firefight to what extent? A tactical breakdown of the complex or a crossfire with stray bullets? The point I'm trying to make is that when that information is revealed, we'll know if it was at all possible to capture Osama alive.

AchtungBono · 05-02-2011, 01:41 AM

Praise to G-d almighty for this wonderful news@!

I had no doubt in my mind that this day would come and I only hoped that I would live to see it. How fitting is it that the joyous news of the death of one of the most evil men in history should come on Holocaust memorial day when we remember the memory of the 6 million Jews murdered by another one of the most evil men in History - Adolph Hitler.

Although Bin Laden wasn't brought to trial, G-d saw to it that he was brought to American justice!

G-d bless the brave U.S. soldiers who avenged the thousands of deaths of 911 and the tens of thousands of other deaths caused by this mass murderer.

As he now must face the full power of G-d's holy judgement, may he be made to pay eternally for the evil acts he has done and for the innocent lives lost at his command.

Rest in HELL!

Jive Turkey · 05-02-2011, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Doesn't surprise me. He's probably shooting for martyrdom status.

It's completely dependent on the situation. Was he intentionally shot, or hit by random firefight bullets?

And by that I mean did someone take aim at him? I have a feeling that Navy SEALs would have the ability to tranquilize him if they really wanted to or were able to, leading me to believe that he was killed in crossfire.

I think you've been watching too many movies, dude. Tranquilize? I'm pretty sure that's not an option or else every police department in the country would deploy the same tactics.

LuckyNumber7 · 05-02-2011, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

I think you've been watching too many movies, dude. Tranquilize? I'm pretty sure that's not an option or else every police department in the country would deploy the same tactics.

tranquilize, disable, disarm, I didn't mean it as specifically in putting him to sleep.

edit: I just feel as though the SEALs have ways either through technology or tactic to suppress a target without killing them.

I meant shooting his gun/non-lethal body parts upon will.

mama cass · 05-02-2011, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by trojanchick99

So, here's a twitter feed from a man in Abbottabad. Eerie. Twitter

wow, that's quite something! his tweets are pretty funny, nice sense of humour - poor guy though having to deal with all this sudden unexpected attention - freaky!

Jive Turkey · 05-02-2011, 01:56 AM

Ah, gotcha. I guess at a certain point it becomes kill or be killed. From the sound of it, they were using a woman as a human shield. She ended up getting killed too, but I'm sure it must've been a pretty chaotic scene

U2DMfan · 05-02-2011, 01:56 AM

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At some point, the conspiracy nonsense gets pretty ridiculous

Beyond ridiculous because it often wears the guise of sound skepticism and some kind of...reason. Not specifically financeguy but any notion at all that this could have been fabricated.

It's delusion in the form of a self-satisfied world view that is more interested in preaching cynicism than actually seeking truth through actual critical analysis.

It would take no more than a casual, critical look to get beyond the question "could this be a fabrication?". How many anti-Obama folks populate the upper ranks of the US military? I am guessing more than a few...and how many of them would gladly like to soil his reputation rather than pollute their own principles by going along with such a sham?

When Jessica Lynch's rescue story came undone, any of you deluded 'skeptics' ask yourself what 'undid' it?

Secrets are only kept in very, very small circles. You might say that the circle surrounding this event would be a little more than impossible to contain. Of course, any sane person would realize everything I just said.

In other words, it's precisely the opposite of sound skepticism. It's idiocy.

deep · 05-02-2011, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AchtungBono

Praise to G-d almighty for this wonderful news@!

I had no doubt in my mind that this day would come and I only hoped that I would live to see it. How fitting is it that the joyous news of the death of one of the most evil men in history should come on Holocaust memorial day when we remember the memory of the 6 million Jews murdered by another one of the most evil men in History - Adolph Hitler.

Although Bin Laden wasn't brought to trial, G-d saw to it that he was brought to American justice!

G-d bless the brave U.S. soldiers who avenged the thousands of deaths of 911 and the tens of thousands of other deaths caused by this mass murderer.

As he now must face the full power of G-d's holy judgement, may he be made to pay eternally for the evil acts he has done and for the innocent lives lost at his command.

Rest in HELL!

you mention G-d four times, but forgot to thank Obama even once.

before G-d got a little help from Obama he wasn't doing very well.

Jive Turkey · 05-02-2011, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by U2DMfan

It's delusion in the form of a self-satisfied world view that is more interested in preaching cynicism than actually seeking truth through actual critical analysis.

Can I steal this from you? I've never heard it put so succinctly

U2DMfan · 05-02-2011, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

Can I steal this from you? I've never heard it put so succinctly

Go ahead, brotha.

I am a huge fan of logic, reason, skepticism, critical/scientific thought, etc.
And those that only bring cynicism as if to show how 'thoughtful' they are, are often only going through the critical motions.

U2DMfan · 05-02-2011, 02:11 AM

So I'm away from my PC and am watching TV earlier tonight...flipping through the channels, I start watching cable news...and I hear about this press conference.
So anyhow, I got sort of freaked out. It was weird, a spontaneous announcement about national security?

So CNN wasn't on it yet...not really.
So I was going back and forth between FOX and MSNBC. And Geraldo was on FOX. After a few minutes, he was saying "I am reading this...Bin Laden is dead" (he repeated it several times). I thought he was full of shit because it's Geraldo, FFS. NBC/ABC/CBS/CNN none of them were saying it yet.

AFAIK, He broke the story.
Yeah.
Geraldo.

Of course, I can't recall where he was getting that info. Maybe it was already online. In any event, he was the first to say it on TV.

deep · 05-02-2011, 02:28 AM

and all I did was post on the internet.

mobvok · 05-02-2011, 03:02 AM

This has been a great night for drunk bros on youtube

YouTube - Boston College Raging in Celebration After Osama's Death

they're fackin' ragin', dude.

mobvok · 05-02-2011, 03:10 AM

Honestly, I'm going to give newscasters a pass for any Obama/Osama mixups because I've done that at least 4 times while typing tonight. It's the same thing when I try and transition between U2 and the UW.

latest news is that they buried his body at sea. Hope they recorded the corpse with a high-def camera a few times to squelch any "Hitler in Argentina" theories.

Also, they buried him before getting back the news on the DNA tests, so the potential for a hilariously wacky mixup presumably remains.

deep · 05-02-2011, 03:19 AM

I guess this attack happened in the last 24 hours.

The reports I heard on T V led me to believe this had happened a few days ago.

And now there are reports the body was taken to Afghanistan and in accordance with Muslim customs buried within 24 hours at sea?

The conspiracy theorists will have plenty to work with here.

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trojanchick99 Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Feliz, CA (between Hollywood and Downtown LA) Posts: 8,352 Local Time: 06:47 PM	So, here's a twitter feed from a man in Abbottabad. Eerie. Twitter __________________

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deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 06:47 PM	I guess this attack happened in the last 24 hours. The reports I heard on T V led me to believe this had happened a few days ago. And now there are reports the body was taken to Afghanistan and in accordance with Muslim customs buried within 24 hours at sea? The conspiracy theorists will have plenty to work with here. __________________

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05-02-2011, 01:31 AM	#184
PhilsFan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Philadelphia Posts: 19,218 Local Time: 09:47 PM	Indications seem to be that there was a firefight.

05-02-2011, 01:32 AM	#185
mama cass Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 6,293 Local Time: 02:47 AM	i wondered what was going on yesterday - we were at Disneyland Paris Saturday and Sunday with the kids - on Saturday during the day going into the parks there was no special security, but then on Sunday night going into Planet Hollywood suddenly there was all this security with bag scanners, and then going into Disney on Sunday morning it was a different vibe altogether as the security checks were much heavier compared with the day before, again with bag scans in a separate tent that wasn't there the previous day, felt kind of worrying to be honest... maybe heightened security on possible American interests abroad?? kind of worried about the backlash... hope things don't go crazy...

05-02-2011, 01:41 AM	#187
AchtungBono Refugee Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Tel-Aviv, Israel Posts: 1,300 Local Time: 01:47 AM	Praise to G-d almighty for this wonderful news@! I had no doubt in my mind that this day would come and I only hoped that I would live to see it. How fitting is it that the joyous news of the death of one of the most evil men in history should come on Holocaust memorial day when we remember the memory of the 6 million Jews murdered by another one of the most evil men in History - Adolph Hitler. Although Bin Laden wasn't brought to trial, G-d saw to it that he was brought to American justice! G-d bless the brave U.S. soldiers who avenged the thousands of deaths of 911 and the tens of thousands of other deaths caused by this mass murderer. As he now must face the full power of G-d's holy judgement, may he be made to pay eternally for the evil acts he has done and for the innocent lives lost at his command. Rest in HELL!

05-02-2011, 01:56 AM	#191
Jive Turkey ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,646 Local Time: 09:47 PM	Ah, gotcha. I guess at a certain point it becomes kill or be killed. From the sound of it, they were using a woman as a human shield. She ended up getting killed too, but I'm sure it must've been a pretty chaotic scene

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U2DMfan Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: It's Inside A Black Hole Posts: 6,637 Local Time: 07:47 PM	So I'm away from my PC and am watching TV earlier tonight...flipping through the channels, I start watching cable news...and I hear about this press conference. So anyhow, I got sort of freaked out. It was weird, a spontaneous announcement about national security? So CNN wasn't on it yet...not really. So I was going back and forth between FOX and MSNBC. And Geraldo was on FOX. After a few minutes, he was saying "I am reading this...Bin Laden is dead" (he repeated it several times). I thought he was full of shit because it's Geraldo, FFS. NBC/ABC/CBS/CNN none of them were saying it yet. AFAIK, He broke the story. Yeah. Geraldo. Of course, I can't recall where he was getting that info. Maybe it was already online. In any event, he was the first to say it on TV.

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deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 06:47 PM	and all I did was post on the internet.

05-02-2011, 03:10 AM	#199
mobvok Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: boom clap Posts: 4,435 Local Time: 05:47 PM	Honestly, I'm going to give newscasters a pass for any Obama/Osama mixups because I've done that at least 4 times while typing tonight. It's the same thing when I try and transition between U2 and the UW. latest news is that they buried his body at sea. Hope they recorded the corpse with a high-def camera a few times to squelch any "Hitler in Argentina" theories. Also, they buried him before getting back the news on the DNA tests, so the potential for a hilariously wacky mixup presumably remains.