Ongoing Mass Shooting Thread #3... that's right, a third thread. Because 'Murica.

[MrsSpringsteen]

[MrsSpringsteen]

Sign at the march I attended today. The high school kids who spoke there were so impressive. We've failed them, but they're moving forward anyway. I hope they don't give up. I'm not going to.

[MrsSpringsteen]

Boston lol

[dazzledbylight]

Went to watch NYC march w my sis (she,'s got problems w her knees). I brought the sign. Very moving. They could over time really make a difference! (we did against the Vietnam War)
The signs- disturbing but well done, others very funny and pointed.

[BEAL]

I think I respect ISIS more the NRA

To attack victims of school shootings has really pushed it over the edge for me. These kids are awesome and a lot stronger than what i think could have been under same circumstances

[Nick66]

Originally Posted by BEAL

I think I respect ISIS more the NRA

The internet is forever.

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by BEAL

I think I respect ISIS more the NRA

Umm...

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Went to March in DC - the 12 year old girl from Chicago floored me

[BEAL]

Originally Posted by Diemen

Umm...

I have very little to fear from ISIS. Are they horrible, yup.

But thanks to the NRA, I have to plan exit routes literally everywhere i go in the states because someone with a gun decides to shoot everyone.

No one stops to debate if ISIS attacks are bad. We want action.

When children get shot by other kids, the NRA stops all action. And now makes videos calling out victims.

“Had there been no school shooter, we wouldn’t know these Parkland kids names”

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by BEAL

I have very little to fear from ISIS. Are they horrible, yup.

But thanks to the NRA, I have to plan exit routes literally everywhere i go in the states because someone with a gun decides to shoot everyone.

No one stops to debate if ISIS attacks are bad. We want action.

When children get shot by other kids, the NRA stops all action. And now makes videos calling out victims.

“Had there been no school shooter, we wouldn’t know these Parkland kids names”

I'm not here to defend the NRA, but ISIS would prefer those children dead. The NRA would not.

[BEAL]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

I'm not here to defend the NRA, but ISIS would prefer those children dead. The NRA would not.

Are you sure about that ? Cause every time kids die by guns they immediately come out and shut the door for any sort of talk.

Watch their latest video on YouTube and tell me that trolling children who have been in school shootings shows one ounce of compassion

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by BEAL

Are you sure about that ? Cause every time kids die by guns they immediately come out and shut the door for any sort of talk.

Watch their latest video on YouTube and tell me that trolling children who have been in school shootings shows one ounce of compassion

Like I said. I'm not here to defend them. They're awful. But if you think their motto or desire is to have mass shootings at school and have children dead, you've misunderstood them.

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by BEAL

Are you sure about that ? Cause every time kids die by guns they immediately come out and shut the door for any sort of talk.

Watch their latest video on YouTube and tell me that trolling children who have been in school shootings shows one ounce of compassion

Look, no one here is saying that the NRA is great. But being callous, craven assholes willing to exploit victims of tragedies is far different than being the kind of people wishing to perpetrate acts of mass murder.

[Danny Boy]

The NRA lobbies for the gun industry.

If they have to deal with a few dead white kids every so often to keep up gun sales, they are happy to make that bargain.

Sure, depraved indifference isn't quite the same as homicidal intent, but it's still evil. Or maybe they actually believe their own bullshit propaganda about more guns being the solution to everything.

[Axver]

Yep. School shootings and other terrorist events are the direct consequence of the NRA's actions. They're not pulling the trigger, they're not ISIS, but they're also complete scum.

[Nick66]

Originally Posted by BEAL

And now makes videos calling out victims.

As opposed to videos of victims actually being beheaded?

I have no love lost for the NRA, and no one is saying they’re a good actor. They’re an impediment to progress. But saying that a terrorist organisation that has actually killed children, kidnapped them, and prostituted them out, and committed mass shootings themselves, to say nothing of the murder, beheadings, rapes, wars, etc, potentially has your respect more than an advocacy organisation which is criticising teenagers is, I'd say, past the red line.

We can debate whether it’s fair to "call out" the views of teenage gun violence survivors who have entered the political debate. But I hope we can all agree that killing teenagers is less worthy of respect than criticising their political views.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Like I said. I'm not here to defend them. They're awful. But if you think their motto or desire is to have mass shootings at school and have children dead, you've misunderstood them.

It helps sales tho

[MrsSpringsteen]

I believe that the NRA as an organization believes that their 2nd Amendment rights supercede the right of children to be safe in school. Not to mention the right of all of us to be free from a mass shooter in a movie theater, church, or anywhere else.

I'm not talking about what individual members believe, that's up to them to decide. But when you believe that your rights(and that was talking about a militia when militias existed. Guess we have a semi automatic militia now?) supercede even the right to life of children, what can you say about that?

Isis has complete disregard for human life in the name of their agenda. Does the NRA do same? Hmmm. I still wouldn't have more respect for Isis, but for me that's still a question to ponder.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by Diemen

Look, no one here is saying that the NRA is great. But being callous, craven assholes willing to exploit victims of tragedies is far different than being the kind of people wishing to perpetrate acts of mass murder.

Gun sales do go up after mass shootings.

[Nick66]

Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

I believe that the NRA as an organization believes that their 2nd Amendment rights supercede the right of children to be safe in school.

I think this is probably true.

But the Bill of Rights has always been about a balance between individual liberty and safety. Students (and the rest of us) giving up more of their own Fourth Amendment rights would likely make them safer as well.