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#781 |
War Child
Join Date: Jan 2019
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The murders by police in Miami are more proof that the gun control conversation has to start with disarming the police.
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#782 |
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Shooting at Naval Air Station Pensacola FL. At least two killed.
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#783 |
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Los Angeles
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I don't know what thread is the right one to talk about this incident, but holy shit, I just found out about this. How can something like this happen? There has to be repercussions for this... There has to be.
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#784 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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After the incident had confirmed that four were dead, the Miramar police (who basically used human shields) had the audacity to post this on Twitter: Update: We can confirm we do NOT have any law enforcement fatalities They’ve since then deleted the tweet but I recall seeing it live. Its apparent that many police organizations think their lives are more valuable. |
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#785 |
War Child
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UPS already thanked the law enforcement officials for their service, right after they murdered their employee on his first day on the job.
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i used to live about 2 miles from where this took place today. unbelievable how heavily armed civilians are allowed to be, and a reminder of the very real dangers police officers face on a daily basis (the officer was shot through the head) and the fact that the vast majority do their job to the best of their abilities in what can be utterly unreal circumstance amongst a population that is allowed to arm itself to the teeth by politicians paid off by a gun lobby that makes money off mass death like this. |
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#787 |
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#788 |
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#789 |
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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Parkland shooting two years ago today. On Valentine's Day.
The survivors still working for, and waiting for, meaningful change. Meanwhile sellout politicians do nothing. |
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I guess they aren’t such “responsible, law abiding” gun owners. |
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#791 | |
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I didn't realize just how big the distance was between the hotel where the shooter in the Vegas shooting was and the area where the concert was being held. It makes the fact he was able to take out so many people from that distance that much more horrifying. One of the survivors of the Texas shooting also said that guns being in a church didn't faze her, because they actually would have a gun and bullets up on the pulpit during sermons, and would do Biblical lessons based around guns and their power. I mean... There's also cell phone footage from the perspective of those who were running and hiding in the Parkland and Las Vegas shootings. You can hear the continuous gunshots and the screams and see a few people dropping. It's incredibly disturbing. But if I could, I'd require every last person in this country watch this documentary. And I would love to strap every single politician to a chair and make them watch it as many times as needed in order for the message to get through. 'Cause if somebody watches this documentary and still thinks nothing needs to change regarding our gun laws, I have to believe there is something deeply, deeply wrong with them as a person. Their humanity is missing, or something. |
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#792 | |
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this is horrifying, and should not go unnoticed:
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#793 |
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: NY
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Here we go again...
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#794 |
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It's a sad state of affairs that a shooting the size of the one at Molson Coors is more or less shrugged off at this point.
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#795 |
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It’s sad but it’s probably for the better that it gets shrugged off.
Not because it’s not a big deal, but because I get the striking suspicion that this mass-casualty suicide by public rampage sort of thing inspires others to do the same when they see how much attention it gets them. One of many defenses to these incidents is to not give them the limelight. And... of course... don’t let them have tools to do such atrocities. Alas, these are equally hard ventures. |
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#796 |
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I know this is long but I thought it was worth posting
HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — Gun rights supporters are suing Connecticut officials over part of a 2013 state gun control law passed after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting, saying it unconstitutionally bans people from loading more than 10 rounds of ammunition into their firearms. The lawsuit filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court cites the Second Amendment right to bear arms and the ability of people to better defend themselves with more bullets in their guns. “Law abiding gun owners in Connecticut are left more susceptible to harm or death by being limited in their means of self-defense,” Holly Sullivan, president of the Connecticut Citizens Defense League, said in a written statement. “Criminals who are intent on doing harm will not follow this same law.” The defense league, the Second Amendment Foundation and two Connecticut gun owners filed the lawsuit against Public Safety Commissioner James Rovella, state police Col. Stavros Mellekas and Chief State’s Attorney Richard Colangelo Jr., none of whom were in their current jobs when the gun control law was passed. “This is a legal process, in which they were named as a result of their current position,” said Brian Foley, a top aide to Rovella, who oversees state police. “We will work through this important process, unfortunately we cannot comment further.” The U.S. Supreme Court has held that states can regulate firearms to protect public safety, said state Attorney General William Tong, whose office will defend state officials and the gun law. “Commonsense gun violence prevention measures are clearly constitutional,” Tong said in a written statement. “Reasonable limits on high capacity magazines save lives. The vast majority of the American people support — and demand — these basic public safety measures.” State officials passed some of the strictest gun control laws in the country after a gunman used an AR-15-style rifle to kill 20 young children and six educators at Sandy Hook in Newtown on Dec. 14, 2012. The laws included a ban on ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 bullets. People who owned “large capacity” magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition before the law took effect were required to notify the state Department of Emergency Services and Public Protection and were allowed to keep them, but are prohibited from putting more than 10 rounds in them. Gun control supporters say the law can save lives by limiting how many bullets a shooter can fire before having to reload. It was approved by former Gov. Dannel Malloy, a Democrat, and the Democratic-controlled legislature. But gun rights supporters say that magazines that hold more than 10 rounds are considered standard and that many firearms are not available with magazines that hold fewer than 10 rounds. “This law does nothing more than penalize law-abiding citizens while criminalizing components of handguns they own that were previously legal,” said Allan Gottlieb, founder and executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation, based in Bellevue, Washington. The two gun owners suing the state are Susan Ross, of East Haddam, and Domenic Basile, of Watertown, who both own handguns with magazines designed to hold more than 10 rounds. “A person with 15 rounds of ammunition available will be better able to defend himself or herself from a criminal gang, or from a drug-crazed criminal who continues attacking even after being shot, than a person who has only 10 rounds of ammunition available before they must reload their gun,” the lawsuit says. Po Murray, chairwoman of the Newtown Action Alliance, said the lawsuit should be dismissed in the interest of public safety and public health. The alliance was formed to prevent gun violence after the Sandy Hook shooting. “Assault weapons and high capacity magazines are the weapons of choice for mass shooters,” she said. “The U.S. Constitution must protect the lives of innocent children and adults in schools not the gun lobby’s pursuit of profits selling weapons of war designed to efficiently kill maximum number of people.” |
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#797 |
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#798 |
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Good
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#799 |
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That’s great and all but legislation like that does literally nothing.
Only allowed one gun purchase per 30 days? Societally great in that it limits the flow of guns. But it only takes one gun to shoot somebody. “Expanded background checks” is such a catch phrase for gun control. Stupid shit like “no selling guns to someone on a no fly list” is like stopping sales to five people out of ten million. Great. Piece of mind. Not very impactful. You can argue that these measures are baby steps but really they’re not. They’re just holding the line against the right. When a republican gets in power, they get undone. |
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#800 |
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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The NRA is suing states that have closed gun stores during the pandemic.
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