Ongoing Mass Shooting Thread #3... that's right, a third thread. Because 'Murica.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

All you "good guy with a gun" fuckers can please go and try and explain that to the father of the 6 year old who is amongst the dead at the food festival in California - where cops responded within a minute.

[Irvine511]

Good job, guns! You really killed children efficiently, just as your design intended!

[Headache in a Suitcase]

It's Saturday, so there's another mass shooting in America.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

If only there were any good guys with guns in Texas.

[LuckyNumber7]

Ya but El Paso is filled with libruls and betos

[Jerry Dunk]

[Bluer White]

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

Ya but El Paso is filled with libruls and betos

Sad day.

[Jerry Dunk]

The injury toll is going to be difficult to figure out, with there being potential undocumented victims who will refuse to go to the hospital. I wouldn't be surprised if ICE is already there.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

Sad day.

We live with a situation where while there is a genuine set of two sides, one side cannot stand how upset and angry the the other side is over genuine inaction. Rather than honestly participating in some sort of change and giving up some ground, there’s a bunch of these back pocket “good guy with a gun” arguments and general lack of desire to give ground (because as Donald has established, not doing so makes you strong).

I’m so sick of hearing the “mental health” argument yet I don’t hear anyone on the right championing a mental health bill or gun bill regarding anything of the sort. Because the NRA might give them a B or some shit.

I’m not posing solutions here. If one side wants to say mental health and the other wants to say take the guns away, well they both agree that we have a problem. One side is disinterested in doing more than *rebutting* the other side’s noise.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by Bluer White

Sad day.

Sad spineless party.



#MAGAshooter can join #MAGAbomber

[Vlad n U 2]

Originally Posted by Jerry Dunk

Truly a 'the worst person you know made a good point' moment, Hodges is a fucking disgrace of a journo, exemplified by his writing for the Daily Mail.

[Moonlit_Angel]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

If only there were any good guys with guns in Texas.

I wonder how quickly the GOP's position on guns would change if immigrants were armed.

Originally Posted by LuckyNumber7

I’m so sick of hearing the “mental health” argument yet I don’t hear anyone on the right championing a mental health bill or gun bill regarding anything of the sort. Because the NRA might give them a B or some shit.

Another issue with the "mental health" argument is that it implies that mentally ill people are more likely to be violent, when that's not the case. I don't think most of these mass shooters are mentally ill. I think they're just flat out cold-blooded assholes who know exactly what they're doing and just do not care.

Honestly, at this point I would be fine with a politician flat out saying, "Yeah, you know what, we should take away all the guns." 'Cause I'm really well past the point of giving a shit what the anti-gun control side wants anymore. They had numerous chances over the years to come to the table and help those of us who support gun control figure out some solutions, but instead they've dug in their heels and continued to insist that guns aren't the problem and continued on with their scary boogeyman nonsense, and have let numerous mass shootings continue to happen while doing nothing of note to step up and help solve the problem.

We've had three shootings within the span of one week. Children continue to keep dying in these shootings. Fuck the anti-gun control crowd.

[Vlad n U 2]

Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel

I wonder how quickly the GOP's position on guns would change if immigrants were armed.

They didn't like it much when the Black Panthers carried guns for self defence.

[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Moonlit_Angel

I wonder how quickly the GOP's position on guns would change if immigrants were armed.



Another issue with the "mental health" argument is that it implies that mentally ill people are more likely to be violent, when that's not the case. I don't think most of these mass shooters are mentally ill. I think they're just flat out cold-blooded assholes who know exactly what they're doing and just do not care.

Honestly, at this point I would be fine with a politician flat out saying, "Yeah, you know what, we should take away all the guns." 'Cause I'm really well past the point of giving a shit what the anti-gun control side wants anymore. They had numerous chances over the years to come to the table and help those of us who support gun control figure out some solutions, but instead they've dug in their heels and continued to insist that guns aren't the problem and continued on with their scary boogeyman nonsense, and have let numerous mass shootings continue to happen while doing nothing of note to step up and help solve the problem.

We've had three shootings within the span of one week. Children continue to keep dying in these shootings. Fuck the anti-gun control crowd.

Well look, I am okay with approaching the “mental health” debate thing because most of these people clearly are deranged. Most of these people do or did need serious help. I just hate how it’s a broad brush “mental health” issue. Moreover, I hate how it’s just a verbal front. Republicans don’t actually want to act on their claims. They just use the claim of “mental health” to deflect “its the gun’s fault.” But you know, fine, I’m OK with that deflection... IF there’s action taken. 3 years ago when Pulse happened, it was mental health. X years ago when Sandy Hook happened, it was mental health. Where’s the legislation that requires gun owners to continually certify their firearm worthiness to help monitor this “mental health” issue? Democrats wouldn’t turn that down. So why aren’t republicans championing that as the answer?

Anyways. Yes I don’t care if someone comes out and says take their guns away on the left. Though I’m not sure it’s a feasible solution (people won’t actually give up their firearms in a buy-back situation anyways). We need a positive, proactive system. We are stuck with that second amendment and it’s not going away anytime soon. There ARE plenty of responsible gun owners, and I do understand the personal freedom associated with being able to do whatever you want to do so long as it isn’t harming someone else. Guns for sport, guns for self protection... I get their side of it.

I just don’t see anyone even trying to come up with a solution. That’s the problem. Banning assault style weapons will cut the death toll in half but it won’t stop the motive, and monitoring or assessing gun owners’ mental capacities to own a gun won’t stop someone from finding some way to commit murder. So while I entirely promote telling people to fuck off on every other political front (health scare) I realize, unlike healthcare where we aren’t stuck with the system that we have, we are kind of stuck with the gun thing. I just wish Democrats saw that and thought a little bit outside the box, similarly to how I wish the republicans had spines.

[BEAL]

We know how things would end if immigrants had guns

Look how we treat black people who sell cigarettes illegally

Yet white guys kill dozens of people and they get taken alive. Even take them to drive thru cause you know shooting people builds an appetite

[LuckyNumber7]

Despite the very valid points, I don’t see how it’s at all beneficial to couple racial inequality with mass shootings. Piling all the oppositions up in one argument just makes the other side more resistant. Also, I’m fairly certain if this shooter was black and surrendered the way this white kid did, he’d be taken into custody just the same. It’s not really doing Eric Garner any service, who was committing petty crimes and paid with his life for being only 95% cooperative with white man overreaction. These shooters are committing mass murder - how they get treated is irrelevant to the Garner story. How other white people committing petty crimes and being merely 95% cooperative with an overreacting police officer is what is important.

[AndrewCowley]

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Maybe the most damaging words ever committed to paper.

[Vlad n U 2]

Two mass shootings in one day.

[LuckyNumber7]

God dammit.

[Moonlit_Angel]

Like I said earlier, fuck the anti-gun control crowd.