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Old 05-25-2018, 10:23 AM   #281
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Maybe if you guys would have a discussion without constantly throwing personal insults, more people would actually take part in this forum.



Gzusfrk, there is no point in engaging people who obviously want an echo chamber and shout down anyone with an alternative viewpoint with personal insults.


Ummmm, that’s his screen name.

But once again, nice try.
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:25 AM   #282
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Hey, Gzusfrk, say hi to Oregoropa for me.

I'd assume ImOuttaControl is bob saget but they've been around for long enough that I know they're not an alter for one of our banned trolly Trump stans.
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Maybe if you guys would have a discussion without constantly throwing personal insults, .
How is this an insult?
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:36 AM   #284
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Hey guy who doesn't support Trump but only comes to argue that side, but totally doesn't support him
Never voted for him, but as I'm not a blind ideologue I have the ability find agreement in some decisions and fault in others. I'm a very centrist person, but on this forum in comparison to you guys I am far right.
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Ummmm, that’s his screen name.

But once again, nice try.
Ummm, no it's not. I could take the letters B V S and turn them into something different too if I wanted to, but we know your posting style and the fact that you can address someone as "freak" is not something you'll pass up on.

Nice try.
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:43 AM   #286
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Ummm, no it's not. I could take the letters B V S and turn them into something different too if I wanted to, but we know your posting style and the fact that you can address someone as "freak" is not something you'll pass up on.

Nice try.
Let's all sound this one out,shall we?

Gzusfrk

G-ZUS FRK

Jesus Freak





seems like Beevus was right.

But Nice Try.
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:46 AM   #287
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Hey, Gzusfrk, say hi to Oregoropa for me.

I'd assume ImOuttaControl is bob saget but they've been around for long enough that I know they're not an alter for one of our banned trolly Trump stans.
And here comes Axver with a wrong assumption as well! How does the saying about assumptions go again?

And, no, I'm not a "Trump troll." I can find plenty of fault in the dude (I voted for Johnson). I have no alter and am no alter, so sorry to burst your bubble. I've actually really grown to appreciate your knowledge of U2 over the years and I'm not totally sure why you feel the need to suddenly come after me.
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Let's all sound this one out,shall we?

Gzusfrk

G-ZUS FRK

Jesus Freak





seems like Beevus was right.

But Nice Try.

Right. Again, you insult people at every opportunity if they post an opinion that you don't agree with. Did Nick66 finally just have enough or was he banned to for not falling into the FYM orthodoxy?
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Right. Again, you insult people at every opportunity if they post an opinion that you don't agree with. Did Nick66 finally just have enough or was he banned to for not falling into the FYM orthodoxy?
Lol what is an insult about this? What other possible pronunciation could their be?
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Ummm, no it's not. I could take the letters B V S and turn them into something different too if I wanted to, but we know your posting style and the fact that you can address someone as "freak" is not something you'll pass up on.

Nice try.
Come on, his screen name is clearly a reference to "Jesus freak", basically like how someone might put it on a vanity license plate.
If BVS had merely called him "Freak", you might have an argument, but here you do not.
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Ummm, no it's not. I could take the letters B V S and turn them into something different too if I wanted to, but we know your posting style and the fact that you can address someone as "freak" is not something you'll pass up on.



Nice try.


ok, we’ll just let him explain his name to us, and if I was wrong, I’ll apologize.
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ok, we’ll just let him explain his name to us, and if I was wrong, I’ll apologize.
If that wasn't your intent, BVS, then I do apologize. I just saw Gzusfrk post some points worth talking about followed by 3 posts that looked like they got personal/calling names. Yours just happened to be 3rd in line.

My overall point is that how can discussion here ever take place when people hurl insults, personal attacks and hyperbole like if you support 2nd amendment rights, you obviously don't care about dead kids and have blood on your face and hands, or calling NRA members terrorists. (I know you didn't say this, but it's just the first couple of examples I could think of).
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Clearly he's an overtly religious natural gas fan

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If that wasn't your intent, BVS, then I do apologize. I just saw Gzusfrk post some points worth talking about followed by 3 posts that looked like they got personal/calling names. Yours just happened to be 3rd in line.

My overall point is that how can discussion here ever take place when people hurl insults, personal attacks and hyperbole like if you support 2nd amendment rights, you obviously don't care about dead kids and have blood on your face and hands, or calling NRA members terrorists. (I know you didn't say this, but it's just the first couple of examples I could think of).
He started it by calling me a leftist
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He started it by calling me a leftist
Is that an insult? I don't think so.
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Is that an insult? I don't think so.
If you aren't one it is
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If you aren't one it is
I suppose there is a level of holding their nose when some people say it, like leftist or liberal is a bad word for a conservative and conservative or right wing is a bad word for a liberal. How else would you describe people on the left of the political spectrum though? Or the right?

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Time to give up this ridiculous crusade that fully spelling out someone’s abbreviated username is a personal attack.

I mean, come on.
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My overall point is that how can discussion here ever take place when people hurl insults, personal attacks and hyperbole like if you support 2nd amendment rights, you obviously don't care about dead kids and have blood on your face and hands, or calling NRA members terrorists. (I know you didn't say this, but it's just the first couple of examples I could think of).



See, I actually do believe that if you vote on the basis of 2nd Amendment “rights” — it’s a pretty vague amendment — and believe that includes assault weapons, then, yes, you absolutely do have the blood of innocent children on your hands. You are electing leaders who will not do anything to prevent these massacres. You could do something about it, but you aren’t. Gun control, as they have in virtually every other western country, reduces gun violence.

This isn’t a debate. It’s about whether you are willing to take the steps needed to reduce violence, or not.

In the era of #metoo, we talk about those who remained silent about abuse being as guilty as the abusers. The same goes here.

The NRA as a terrorist organization hardly needs debate either. The policies they have advanced have resulted in far more American death than ISIS or Al Qaeda. If you pay dues to the NRA, or financially support them in any way, post their videos where they mock Parkland students, you are supporting their terrorist agenda intended to sell more guns to a more paranoid population.
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If would be amazing if leftists spent as much time blaming the people who actually COMMIT the crimes, as they do organizations or institutions that they think "cause" these things. Or the crappy parents that drop the ball , or as in the case of Parkland, the Broward County Sheriff's department and the FBI who screwed up MULTIPLE times.

It's NEVER personal responsibility with the left
literally two pages before this post (and quoted in full on the previous page) is a long detailed post i made about how personal responsibility is the solution to the problem of violent misogynistic young men committing mass murder, but hey don't let that get in the way of your narrative.
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