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Old 05-20-2018, 03:50 PM   #261
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Just a thought, but maybe because NRA members aren’t the ones shooting anyone??🤔
The NRA is the worst association ever! Maybe their members did not shoot up at the schools. But they use these events to further their agenda all the time. Ei, they say that the solution to this problem is to arm all teachers with a gun and that more guns is always the solution. Do you think they suggest that because they truly care about the safety of children?? Think again! More guns = more money into their filthy pockets! Do you think that arming a teach or everyone at a school will eliminate this problem?? Infact I am sure it will cause many more new problems like for example when authorities come in to get the shooter and they see all these people with guns, how will they know who is the shooter and who is the “good guy with a gun”?? What if a disturbed student tackles a teacher armed with a gun and takes his or her gun and uses it to shoot other students??? Where do teachers leave the guns at the end of the day? Some sort of storage in school? What if someone breaks in to that storage then they have a bunch of guns they can go on a rampage. The list goes on and on and the NRA says this is the solution. Yes it’s the solution to line themselves with more money at the cost of innocent children’s lives.

I can’t take anyone seriously that defends the NRA! I live in Canada and Canada has very strict gun laws and so do many other nations and all these nations don’t have a mass shooting every few weeks! Gun laws work, the NRA’s so called solutions don’t work at all!
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Old 05-20-2018, 05:19 PM   #262
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Just a thought, but maybe because NRA members aren’t the ones shooting anyone??



We need them around to mock the victims and then make the senseless death of innocents about them and things that might possibly inconvenience them.
















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Old 05-20-2018, 08:00 PM   #263
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This is so fucking pathetic. Just accept a no and move the fuck on.
For me, I think this gets to the core of what is going on here. Obviously this is a complicated problem, with a number of different factors at play. And since this is a uniquely American issue, you'd have to be a complete moron to not see that access to guns and the 2nd Amendment is a major reason why this literally happens nowhere else.

Lack of adequate support for people suffering front mental health issues also exacerbates the issue. Again, even here this circles back to guns, because every country on Earth has people with mental health problems, but they don't have easy access to firearms.

But insofar as the recent violence involving so-called "incels" are concerned, I actually think this is more than just about sex and is a symptom of modern parenting. A lot of kids are ill-equipped to simply accept rejection and move on. And that goes for anything, not just with relationships. Because a lot of parents coddle their kids, and institutions insist on handing out "participation medals", kids grow up with a sense of entitlement.

I've been rejected by my fair share of women. And it's going to happen again. I've been turned down by potential employers. I've been let go from work for subpar performance. I've failed time and again. But I don't view it as the end of the world. I use it as a learning experience and motivation to improve myself. It builds character.

But the sense of entitlement that these young, angry men precludes them from seeing it as anything but the end of the world and some lash out.

I hope that makes sense. I think to solve this problem with involve work on multiple fronts. It's a complex issue.
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this "they wouldn't be violent if they just got laid" is nonsense.

as if getting your dick wet is this magical switch that flips violent hate-filled shitlords into awesome happy people. the onus should not be on women to have sex with violent angry young men as the solution to this problem.

besides, the violent ones (incels) don't want anything to do with sexually available women anyways - they all think women are "ruined" (to put it mildly) the instant they express their sexuality in any way outside of the context of the traditional "we waited until our wedding night". they don't want to just fuck, they want a specific and unrealistic vision of what they think idealized love should be (she has to look like a supermodel but so innocent and pure that she has never even so much as looked at another man until i came along but also she has to just intuitively know how to fuck like a porn star, and be fully subservient like a stepford wife at all times), and the reason they never get it is because their standards and expectations are so high they're doomed to fail from the start. they get rejected because when every woman on earth inevitably fails to meet their impossible standards they blame everything and everyone else except themselves and get angry at the world because they see the game as so absurdly rigged against them that they don't stand a chance, so there's no point in even trying to do anything but rage quit and smash the board.

they don't want escorts because they're the ultimate used-up sluts. incels wouldn't even knowingly be in the same room as a prostitute and if you tried to force it the only outcome of that would be a whole lot of dead sex workers.

this is not a problem you solve by getting incels laid. *they* need to change who they are as people, fundamentally. that's the only solution.
Right. If they had girlfriends, they'd be abusers.

There are two core problems: ease of access to guns, and the entitlement of straight, white boys/men.
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Old 05-21-2018, 03:16 PM   #265
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So which is it, certain right wingers? Am I supposed to save myself for the sanctity of marriage, or am I supposed to have pity sex with men so they don't go on shooting rampages?
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So which is it, certain right wingers? Am I supposed to save myself for the sanctity of marriage, or am I supposed to have pity sex with men so they don't go on shooting rampages?



Whatever you do, don’t get pregnant and have an abortion.

Send that child to public school so it can be pumped full of lead in the name of freedom.
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Old 05-21-2018, 04:12 PM   #267
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So which is it, certain right wingers? Am I supposed to save myself for the sanctity of marriage, or am I supposed to have pity sex with men so they don't go on shooting rampages?
Seriously. We can't seem to win either way, apparently.
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Old 05-21-2018, 07:46 PM   #268
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They haven't adopted it, though, because they're not DOING anything about it. They're taking AWAY access to healthcare. SAYING something and doing something are two different things.

Gun laws don't require you to lock up your guns.

His dad had legal guns.

He got the guns.

His mental health care may have prevented this. But the access to the guns enabled it.
This.

I've just started (and will not be a regular) on my f2f account supporting someone who is arguing for gun control AND more, faster mental health services.

Been told by some maybe uber gun owner that I don't know anything about it and what it means.

Been listening for decades about these issues! And was toned down in my reply. Do not need harassment from Uber NRA people!
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Old 05-22-2018, 05:23 AM   #269
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So which is it, certain right wingers? Am I supposed to save myself for the sanctity of marriage, or am I supposed to have pity sex with men so they don't go on shooting rampages?


Not only that, but the same party that has been known to push abstinence-only sex ed now wants high school girls to fuck high school boys to keep them from shooting everyone?
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Thank you Dave C & bono_212 for posts #252 & #253.

Though I only heard the term "incell" recently, I know what was being discussed.

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NRA members need to realize that their little hunting club has turned into nothing more than a shill for gun manufacturers and will use all of their power not to protect 2nd amendment rights, but rather to make sure that no reasonable law that might hurt the bottom line of said manufacturers is ever enacted.
THIS.

I think it was sometime in the later '70's when the NRA made the switch over (listening to history of 1978 thereabouts).
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Old 05-24-2018, 07:31 PM   #271
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Right. If they had girlfriends, they'd be abusers.

There are two core problems: ease of access to guns, and the entitlement of straight, white boys/men.
I'd tend to agree.
Abusers? Probably when girlfriend didn't/or did act in ways that they didn't like (at the very least). Yikes!
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So which is it, certain right wingers? Am I supposed to save myself for the sanctity of marriage, or am I supposed to have pity sex with men so they don't go on shooting rampages?
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Seriously. We can't seem to win either way, apparently.

Sheeeeesh!

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Maybe if we try really hard we can have enough school shootings so that every professional sports team can have their own to honor.

Come on America, I know you can so it
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If would be amazing if leftists spent as much time blaming the people who actually COMMIT the crimes, as they do organizations or institutions that they think "cause" these things. Or the crappy parents that drop the ball , or as in the case of Parkland, the Broward County Sheriff's department and the FBI who screwed up MULTIPLE times.

It's NEVER personal responsibility with the left, it's always some nebulous organization behind it all. And the left's solution for bad government supervision and criminals breaking laws?

Let's get MORE government involvement and create more laws. Pure genius.
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It's amazing how dopes see glaring, unmistakable statistics and just go rabble rabble rabble it's probably Hillary Clinton's fault arm the children and make the bla... I mean criminals take some personal responsibility!
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Ongoing Mass Shooting Thread #3... that's right, a third thread. Because 'Murica.

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If would be amazing if leftists spent as much time blaming the people who actually COMMIT the crimes, as they do organizations or institutions that they think "cause" these things. Or the crappy parents that drop the ball , or as in the case of Parkland, the Broward County Sheriff's department and the FBI who screwed up MULTIPLE times.

It's NEVER personal responsibility with the left, it's always some nebulous organization behind it all. And the left's solution for bad government supervision and criminals breaking laws?

Let's get MORE government involvement and create more laws. Pure genius.




Anything but the guns. Literally, ANYTHING. Throw shit at the wall, make shit up, lie lie lie, spew some nonsensical bullshit about “personal responsibility” because you’re uninformed enough to think buzzwords mean things. And avoid policy, statistics, and the simple fact that this doesn’t happen with any sort of regularity in any other country. Because they have LAWS that prevent these kinds of things from happening.

All because you hate the opposing team more than you care about dead kids. And because you’re being willfully stupid in order to ... what, exactly? Defend The Sandy Hook shooter’s mother’s right to our wn the assault weapons used to murder her and slice a bunch of first graders into hamburger? Because that’s about “personal responsibility”? Because you don’t want to be inconvenienced however slightly? Because you don’t want to think that other peoples lives are maybe just as important as yours?

This happens because people like you live in the US and think your twisted notion of rights is more important than dead people.

Blood is on your face and hands.
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Old 05-25-2018, 10:02 AM   #277
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If would be amazing if leftists spent as much time blaming the people who actually COMMIT the crimes, as they do organizations or institutions that they think "cause" these things. Or the crappy parents that drop the ball , or as in the case of Parkland, the Broward County Sheriff's department and the FBI who screwed up MULTIPLE times.

It's NEVER personal responsibility with the left, it's always some nebulous organization behind it all. And the left's solution for bad government supervision and criminals breaking laws?

Let's get MORE government involvement and create more laws. Pure genius.


Jesus freak,

No one is against blaming those that pulled the trigger.

But let’s take a good look at how those individuals got the guns.

The NRA lobbied against certain mental health checks, they’ve also(until just recently) lobbied against gun restraining orders which required the FBI to hand guns back to the future shooter, in two recent mass shootings.

It's NEVER personal responsibility with the right, it's always some nebulous deep state behind it all. And the right’s solution for actual law and order?
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Jesus freak,
Maybe if you guys would have a discussion without constantly throwing personal insults, more people would actually take part in this forum.

Gzusfrk, there is no point in engaging people who obviously want an echo chamber and shout down anyone with an alternative viewpoint with personal insults.
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Maybe if you guys would have a discussion without constantly throwing personal insults, more people would actually take part in this forum.

Gzusfrk, there is no point in engaging people who obviously want an echo chamber and shout down anyone with an alternative viewpoint with personal insults.
Hey guy who doesn't support Trump but only comes to argue that side, but totally doesn't support him
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Ongoing Mass Shooting Thread #3... that's right, a third thread. Because 'Murica.

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Maybe if you guys would have a discussion without constantly throwing personal insults, more people would actually take part in this forum.



Gzusfrk, there is no point in engaging people who obviously want an echo chamber and shout down anyone with an alternative viewpoint with personal insults.


Gzusfrk made his bed a long time ago with me via personal insult.

And if you’ll look at his post(s) they’re hardly missives of comity and civility seeking to understand alternative viewpoints. He comes to yell just as much as anybody, it not more.
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