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Old 10-23-2012, 06:10 PM   #21
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It might affect the women vote and increase the gap. I don't know!

if she kept the baby, she got included in the binder
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The only possible way this would be a scandal would be if the baby were Mitt's, which is incredibly unlikely.
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:29 PM   #23
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But women already know he's pro life.
It depends if he was nasty about it or some other character trait. This is just a rumor of what Allred is going to talk about. The Trump thing about Obama wanting a divorce would fail since Trump IS divorced AND wanted to be president.
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The only possible way this would be a scandal would be if the baby were Mitt's, which is incredibly unlikely.
let's just hope the sister wives, keep their mouths shut
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Old 10-23-2012, 06:38 PM   #25
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The Trump thing about Obama wanting a divorce would fail since Trump IS divorced AND wanted to be president.
Not really, because there are two different sets of standards. One for him, one for Obama (and everyone else that he disagrees with/hates).

I don't think any divorce matters between the President and Michelle would be all that scandalous, not bordering on "gigantic" like Steve Doocy claimed. It would have to be some "secret marriage". Of course Trump wants to think that anything he says and does is gigantic. Must be some sort of complex about something.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:17 PM   #26
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There's been rumors that the Obamas' marriage is purely political and business oriented, not based on anything personal. Supposedly, Michelle wanted a divorce some 10 years ago, but was pressured to stay by the Democrats in Chicago to make Obama look good down the road.

Even if it is true, it wouldn't change the opinion of anyone who wants to vote for Obama. They want him for his politics, not his personal life.
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:16 PM   #27
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That's a great ploy by Trump... its really hurt the Clinton's over the years.
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Jesus, can Trump just shut up and go away already? Why does anyone still care about what he says or thinks about anything? And any Republicans/Republican supporters getting on Obama about marriage is laughable enough as it is.

As for the college thing, if that's true, it's a dumb thing to do, but drugs in college? Not exactly uncommon. Unless they murdered or raped someone or something like that, I really couldn't care less about people's college activities.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:06 PM   #29
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That's a great ploy by Trump... its really hurt the Clinton's over the years.
No. There's a huge difference between getting blow jobs in the oval office and having marital problems 10 years ago.
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I actually wonder if the Romney campaign is going to try to keep Trump quiet in fear that pulling a stunt like that could actually hurt Romney's improved image.

Remember, this is the party of the campaign where people are sick of the negative ads. Something over the top might keep a prospective Romney voter home on election day.

I see Trump coming out with this "announcement" hurting Romney more than Obama.
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The almost-divorce thing is well known. They've both talked about it.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:49 PM   #32
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The almost-divorce thing is well known. They've both talked about it.
But did Michelle admit to being pressured to stay by the Chicago Democrats? After all, that is what Huckabee on FOX is saying - you know, that station that does serious reporting and not politically motivated gossip?
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As for the college thing, if that's true, it's a dumb thing to do, but drugs in college? Not exactly uncommon. Unless they murdered or raped someone or something like that, I really couldn't care less about people's college activities.
Even when it's dealing cocaine?

I'm talking about for anyone, that's kind of a biggie.
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if she kept the baby, she got included in the binder
Maybe Romney has got porno in his binder.
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Even when it's dealing cocaine?

I'm talking about for anyone, that's kind of a biggie.
Oh, like I said, it's stupid, no question. Massively stupid (and, as properly noted, illegal). IF it's true.

But unless he was part of some massive drug operation ring or something, then I'd say we should chalk it up to a really dumb thing he did, and thankfully he wised up, stopped and moved on from that crap eons ago (if he were still doing it NOW then yeah, I would definitely say it's particularly worthy of concern). That's all. Besides that, as noted, him using cocaine wasn't much of a secret, so if people think someone who uses drugs also deals them would be a "shocking" news story, I would say, "Eh, no, not really."
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:23 AM   #36
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I just don't understand political smear tactics....on either side.

If I were running for office I would NEVER smear the other side - that would only make ME look bad.
I would lay out my campaign, never make promises I couldn't keep, and run a totally honest and open campaign without having to dig up dirt on anyone else.

If I have to resort to smear tactics to get myself elected then that doesn't say much about me.

I wish both sides would just stick to trying to make America (and the world) a better place to live and leave each other alone.
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Oh, like I said, it's stupid, no question. Massively stupid (and, as properly noted, illegal). IF it's true.

But unless he was part of some massive drug operation ring or something, then I'd say we should chalk it up to a really dumb thing he did, and thankfully he wised up, stopped and moved on from that crap eons ago (if he were still doing it NOW then yeah, I would definitely say it's particularly worthy of concern). That's all. Besides that, as noted, him using cocaine wasn't much of a secret, so if people think someone who uses drugs also deals them would be a "shocking" news story, I would say, "Eh, no, not really."
Particularly if "dealing cocaine" turns out to mean selling half a gram to a friend this one time.
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It would be funny though if the surprise was that Obama sold Biden cocaine just hours before the vice presidential debate. : wink:
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If Obama was dealing coke, that's a pretty big deal.

If he and Michelle almost broke up but stayed together for political means, well, then he's a politician. Which we already know... I'm pretty sure the whole "Obama's a new kinda politician/hope" thing died a long time ago. He's no different from anyone else.

If anything.... Trump dropping the divorce papers could help Obama... making him look sympathetic against a meaningless attack by a giant douche.
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I knew several people at college who sold narcotics on campus. Not heroin, but cannabis, LSD and coke. They certainly weren't Columbian drug barons, they just made a few hundred bucks on the side now and then. I'm still in touch with those guys. One is a university lecturer (and now a world renowned researcher on autism), one is the head if an NGO and the other is a medical doctor with the airforce. If their employers knew of their college activities, it would not affect them one iota - they are all ultra responsible adults and proverbial pillars of society. Quite a few highly intelligent people commit misdemeanours at college, whether it's dealing drugs or hacking into computers. I don't think Obama has anything to worry about.
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