Obama is the anti-christ? - Page 5

coemgen · 10-09-2009, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by melon

You do realize that the "antichrist" theology we hold today is thanks to the 16th century Counter-Reformation, and not any Biblical precepts, right? A Jesuit priest, Francisco Ribera, tied the idea of the "antichrist" to apocalyptic futurism to deflect from the widespread Protestant view that the "antichrist" was the contemporary Papacy. Protestants, too, started to believe in this "futurism" only in the early 20th century. Up until Ribera's writings, the "antichrist" could refer to any number of contemporary enemies of the Church, but none of them were expected to usher in the end of the world.

I'm sure you were probably being facetious, but frankly I'm tired of this kind of superstitious nonsense hampering progress.

As a Christian, I second this post. He's not the anti-Christ. That's just more fear talk from the Right, which is wrong.

nathan1977 · 10-09-2009, 01:12 PM

Agreed, coemgen. There are plenty of reasons to be surprised at Obama's awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize. Fears that he's the Boogeyman aren't one of them.

Knuckle · 10-09-2009, 01:31 PM

This thread isn't funny. It shouldn't be locked (yet), but the very notion that people in general might consider this a legitimate subject of debate is frightening. These kinds of topics (and the other hyperventilation about needing to "take back the country" from a socialist or fascist Obama) is dangerous. Don't tell me about how "spirited" debate is common throughout American political history. Does anyone really have any doubt about the real threat this nonsense (whipped into frenzy by right wing talk radio and tv) presents? Seems like the same propaganda and atmosphere in Israel before a misguided, ultra right wing, self-perceived, patriot felt that he had to murder Itzhak Rabin to "save" Israel.

PS: I'm not suggesting any comments here are out of line or dangerous, just the "issue" at large. We might as well discuss whether or not Obama is a space alien sent to destroy us.

deep · 10-09-2009, 02:36 PM

shouldn't be locked, yet?

locking down threads just prevents persons with the correct information from having an opportunity to present it to misinformed individuals

it also allows misinformed people a chance to either get better informed or expose themselves and their ideas to the daylight, where other people can reach their own conclusions about the arguments presented.

Knuckle · 10-09-2009, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deep

shouldn't be locked, yet?

locking down threads just prevents persons with the correct information from having an opportunity to present it to misinformed individuals

it also allows misinformed people a chance to either get better informed or expose themselves and their ideas to the daylight, where other people can reach their own conclusions about the arguments presented.

I am in almost complete agreement with what you've said. I don't like seeing threads locked. I said "yet" because no one here suggested that violence was the appropriate response to a suspected "antichrist". Gotta go...catching the train to the Yankees game now. Go Phillies!

deep · 10-09-2009, 03:06 PM

have fun at the game

I think Thomas Friedman wrote an article recently with your same concerns

HyperU2 · 10-09-2009, 03:25 PM

He just destroyed the Nobel committee's credibility.

deep · 10-09-2009, 03:30 PM

What?

He nominated himself and fixed the voting?

Axelrod did some pretty shifty things during the primaries keeping Michigan and Florida delegates out.

But I don't think they had anything to do with this.

and you may recall their last attempt to win at the Olympics, they came in last.

indra · 10-09-2009, 03:53 PM

I wondered who dragged this topic back up.

INDY500 · 10-09-2009, 04:52 PM

Quote:

The whole world is depending on the U.S. -- and you -- to literally save this planet.
-- Michael Moore posting on news of Barack Obama winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

When sycophantic "followers" stop making a Savior out of Barack Obama then others of us will stop making him the antichrist.

Both are equally ridiculous and should be ridiculed at every opportunity.

indra · 10-09-2009, 04:54 PM

I do love tit for tat.

deep · 10-09-2009, 05:56 PM

me too

but what's tat?

martha · 10-10-2009, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deep

me too

but what's tat?

My grandma knew how to tat. It's lace-making.

yolland · 10-10-2009, 12:27 AM

(pointless trivia item: it's also the name of the traditional language of the Jews of the Caucasus, which is related to Farsi)

INDY500 · 10-10-2009, 12:32 AM

Tat is slang for tattoo.

Not that our president would have one like this or anything.

BVS · 10-10-2009, 12:41 AM

Not trying too hard? No, not at all...

maycocksean · 10-10-2009, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INDY500

Tat is slang for tattoo.

Not that our president would have one like this or anything.

Okay that WAS funny.

Knuckle · 10-10-2009, 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deep

have fun at the game

I think Thomas Friedman wrote an article recently with your same concerns

I can't claim the "Itzhak Rabin" part of my post as originally my own. I heard some political commentator say it on tv while I was getting ready for work in the morning. I agreed with what he said and remembered it. I don't know who he was, but from what you've said, chances are he was repeating what you said Thomas Friedman wrote.

By the way, Yankee game was great. I'm not a Yankees fan, but I easily could be after last night.

INDY500 · 03-27-2010, 03:54 PM

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death, and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
-- Revelation 13:3

The cover of the current Economist magazine. Obviously it's not a real picture but nevertheless interesting for those playing the home version of Rapture 2012.

Vincent Vega · 03-27-2010, 04:01 PM

The bandage looks pretty good, but with the band aid they could have done better.

10-09-2009, 01:12 PM	#82
nathan1977 Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Strong Badia Posts: 3,445 Local Time: 12:39 AM	Agreed, coemgen. There are plenty of reasons to be surprised at Obama's awarding of the Nobel Peace Prize. Fears that he's the Boogeyman aren't one of them. __________________

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Vincent Vega Rock n' Roll Doggie ALL ACCESS Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Berlin Posts: 6,746 Local Time: 02:39 AM	The bandage looks pretty good, but with the band aid they could have done better. __________________

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10-09-2009, 01:31 PM	#83
Knuckle Acrobat Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 476 Local Time: 08:39 PM	This thread isn't funny. It shouldn't be locked (yet), but the very notion that people in general might consider this a legitimate subject of debate is frightening. These kinds of topics (and the other hyperventilation about needing to "take back the country" from a socialist or fascist Obama) is dangerous. Don't tell me about how "spirited" debate is common throughout American political history. Does anyone really have any doubt about the real threat this nonsense (whipped into frenzy by right wing talk radio and tv) presents? Seems like the same propaganda and atmosphere in Israel before a misguided, ultra right wing, self-perceived, patriot felt that he had to murder Itzhak Rabin to "save" Israel. PS: I'm not suggesting any comments here are out of line or dangerous, just the "issue" at large. We might as well discuss whether or not Obama is a space alien sent to destroy us.

10-09-2009, 02:36 PM	#84
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 05:39 PM	shouldn't be locked, yet? locking down threads just prevents persons with the correct information from having an opportunity to present it to misinformed individuals it also allows misinformed people a chance to either get better informed or expose themselves and their ideas to the daylight, where other people can reach their own conclusions about the arguments presented.

10-09-2009, 03:06 PM	#86
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 05:39 PM	have fun at the game I think Thomas Friedman wrote an article recently with your same concerns

10-09-2009, 03:25 PM	#87
HyperU2 War Child Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Carlisle PA Posts: 818 Local Time: 07:39 PM	He just destroyed the Nobel committee's credibility.

10-09-2009, 03:30 PM	#88
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 05:39 PM	What? He nominated himself and fixed the voting? Axelrod did some pretty shifty things during the primaries keeping Michigan and Florida delegates out. But I don't think they had anything to do with this. and you may recall their last attempt to win at the Olympics, they came in last.

10-09-2009, 03:53 PM	#89
indra ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,689 Local Time: 08:39 PM	I wondered who dragged this topic back up.

10-09-2009, 04:54 PM	#91
indra ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 12,689 Local Time: 08:39 PM	I do love tit for tat.

10-09-2009, 05:56 PM	#92
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,602 Local Time: 05:39 PM	me too but what's tat?

10-10-2009, 12:27 AM	#94
yolland Forum Moderator Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 7,471 Local Time: 01:39 AM	(pointless trivia item: it's also the name of the traditional language of the Jews of the Caucasus, which is related to Farsi)

10-10-2009, 12:32 AM	#95
INDY500 Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The American Resistance Posts: 4,754 Local Time: 06:39 PM	Tat is slang for tattoo. Not that our president would have one like this or anything.

10-10-2009, 12:41 AM	#96
BVS Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: between my head and heart Posts: 41,232 Local Time: 07:39 PM	Not trying too hard? No, not at all...

03-27-2010, 03:54 PM	#99
INDY500 Rock n' Roll Doggie Band-aid Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: The American Resistance Posts: 4,754 Local Time: 06:39 PM	And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death, and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. -- Revelation 13:3 The cover of the current Economist magazine. Obviously it's not a real picture but nevertheless interesting for those playing the home version of Rapture 2012.