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Old 06-25-2013, 01:05 PM   #161
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BVS, i was thinking more along the lines of "carrier pigeon"
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:14 PM   #162
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Honest question you guys: if Bush was president when this whole Snowden thing went down, would it have changed your opinion on the topic?
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Old 06-25-2013, 04:24 PM   #163
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the honest answer is that Bush/ Chaney deserved more suspicion, their abuse of power and blatant lies were much worse, they proved they did not deserve the benefit of the doubt

there is quite a bit of difference between how both Administrations did/do things. I do realize many of the policies are the same.
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:03 PM   #164
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Honest question you guys: if Bush was president when this whole Snowden thing went down, would it have changed your opinion on the topic?
Honest answer: it shouldn't.

Reality: Partisanship is so ingrained into political discussion that it can lead to irrational analysis.

The issues of (i) balancing civil liberties and national defense and (ii) the treatment of Snowden (whistle blower or traitor) can (and should) be discussed with no regard as to the party in power.
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Old 06-25-2013, 05:53 PM   #165
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Honest answer: it shouldn't.

Reality: Partisanship is so ingrained into political discussion that it can lead to irrational analysis.

The issues of (i) balancing civil liberties and national defense and (ii) the treatment of Snowden (whistle blower or traitor) can (and should) be discussed with no regard as to the party in power.
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Old 06-25-2013, 08:20 PM   #167
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Well one good thing Snowden did. . .

Brought nbcrusader back to FYM.
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Old 06-26-2013, 04:09 AM   #168
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Honest answer: it shouldn't.

Reality: Partisanship is so ingrained into political discussion that it can lead to irrational analysis.

The issues of (i) balancing civil liberties and national defense and (ii) the treatment of Snowden (whistle blower or traitor) can (and should) be discussed with no regard as to the party in power.
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Well one good thing Snowden did. . .

Brought nbcrusader back to FYM.

Snowden also gave us a reason to look up pictures of his ex-girlfriend,
so that makes two good things.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:21 AM   #170
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^ meh.
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i am still uncertain as to why it took me over 2 hours to vote last november in my very liberal neighborhood in GOP controlled, swing state of Virginia.





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Old 06-26-2013, 08:46 PM   #172
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Honest answer: it shouldn't.

Reality: Partisanship is so ingrained into political discussion that it can lead to irrational analysis.

The issues of (i) balancing civil liberties and national defense and (ii) the treatment of Snowden (whistle blower or traitor) can (and should) be discussed with no regard as to the party in power.


I agree. Both sides are guilty and should be called out equally with NO excuses for the one you like most.
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Old 06-29-2013, 05:13 AM   #173
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Helpful hint: if you're going to attempt to insult people's intelligence, it helps if you don't make the attempt with uninspired and laughably ineffective insults.

Also, if this is going to be your style going forward, tim, then FYM isn't the place for you.
Sorry diemen, I feel quite comfortable in FYM opposing most of the people not living in the real world as most liberals do. I won't correct your grammar as I don't feel the need to justify my college degree. Just curious, what do you do for a living?
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I'll drop the sarcasm then: if all you're going to do is toss around silly insults at every opportunity, then that's not going to fly here. I suggest you consider a different approach.
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I'll drop the sarcasm then: if all you're going to do is toss around silly insults at every opportunity, then that's not going to fly here. I suggest you consider a different approach.
Ok. What do you do for a living?
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Ok. What do you do for a living?
After he sold the family nail salon, he became a pediatric neurosurgeon who moonlights as an electrician. Why would that even matter?
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Ok. What do you do for a living?
If you're a detective maybe you can find that out for yourself.
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Ok. What do you do for a living?
Picking a fight with a mod? You're totally asking to be banned.
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Ok. What do you do for a living?
Ooh, let's see if you can judge my intelligence based on my job!

Again, you need to find a new approach here. One that doesn't involve insulting others.
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