Obama General Discussion, vol. 5

[Bluer White]

Originally Posted by Oregoropa

Maybe this was the intent of the ACA the whole time.


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You missed some of the discussions here before the "Affordable Care Act" and its promises were forced through Congress.

[Oregoropa]

Bluer - All about the Cloward-Piven model


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[BigMacPhisto]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

Sounds like it's time for a public option.

When was it not? It was always the right answer.

The worst part is that Obama took the damn public option out of the bill to try to get Republican votes that he ended up not receiving (and he would do this same watering down crap for years until he finally figured out that they'll never budge). I think even the Blue Dog Democrats and the handful in bed with the health insurance industry would have had their arms pulled and been forced to go along with the ACA and we'd now have a public option leading to downward spiraling costs.

Obviously, the end game is just that the industry would mostly go out of business and we'd have a Socialized health care system like everywhere else which is what works, but the ACA has been surprisingly effective at keeping costs low, both due to government regulation and the increased competition in the state exchanges.

The ACA will go down as the only real legislative accomplishment of Obama's eight years (and Hillary probably won't have a single important left-leaning bill in her terms given what we know about Republican obstructionism), but it's a damn fine one to have.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

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[BigMacPhisto]

Yes, my post was so crazy. Arguing that socialized medicine which every first world country employs is the answer or the fact that Clinton will face Republican obstructionism since Republicans will almost certainly control the House for the next eight years are so wacky.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

The fuck are you talking about? I posted in the wrong thread and deleted it.

[BVS]

The . is stronger than any word or emoji






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[phanan]

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[LuckyNumber7]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

The fuck are you talking about? I posted in the wrong thread and deleted it.

Nonsense. You just used the smallest font and everyone caught on.

[Headache in a Suitcase]

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[DaveC]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

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can the mods please do something about this obvious trolling, wtf

[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by DaveC

can the mods please do something about this obvious trolling, wtf

You're part of the problem, maaaan

[Oregoropa]

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[BVS]

Oh you fell for that "controversy"? I'm shocked.

Right wing media is so predictable, but their audience, even more so.


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[Headache in a Suitcase]

I mean... Are Republicans reaaaaaaaaaally going to go down the road if discussing a president's reaction to floods in New Orleans?

[BVS]

Originally Posted by Headache in a Suitcase

I mean... Are Republicans reaaaaaaaaaally going to go down the road if discussing a president's reaction to floods in New Orleans?

Yes. They know their audience. They know facts don't matter.

[DaveC]

Barack Obama 'will reveal alien and UFO details held by the US before he leaves office'

good lord this is on msn.com

[BVS]

So this is how he'll enact marital law!


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[Headache in a Suitcase]

Originally Posted by DaveC

Barack Obama 'will reveal alien and UFO details held by the US before he leaves office'

good lord this is on msn.com

I think the correct statement there would be "good lord, YOU'RE on msn"

[DaveC]

noooo, i saw the link on facebook. i am not a 65-year old woman who has no idea how to use anything other than internet explorer.