Natalee Holloway suspect arrested again for suspected murder

BrownEyedBoy · 06-03-2010, 03:34 PM

Holloway suspect detained in Peru killing - Americas- msnbc.com

This was a case that always disturbed me because of how this poor girl simply vanished and was never found. I've always felt so sad for the family that had to go through not knowing what happened to their daughter.

Well, apparently, the main suspect is in a similar scenario again.

Thoughts?

BVS · 06-03-2010, 04:49 PM

I saw this and immediately thought two things:

This guy is either just in the wrong place at the wrong time and people are really out to get him.

Or, he's just really stupid with maybe a mix of rage issues...

It should be interesting.

Hopefully we can find closure to both. I've always felt for Natalee's family not having any kind of closure.

the iron horse · 06-03-2010, 06:14 PM

There is justice either in this world or the next.

Wrongs will be righted.

We will eventually reap what we sow.

That is what I believe.

anitram · 06-03-2010, 07:36 PM

There goes Nancy Grace, frothing at the mouth.

the iron horse · 06-03-2010, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by anitram

There goes Nancy Grace, frothing at the mouth.

Why is she doing that?

corianderstem · 06-03-2010, 08:35 PM

Because now she has fodder for another 800 shows.

I don't know, if I were a notorious prime suspect in the case of a missing girl, I'd go out of my way to make sure to steer clear of women ending up dead in my hotel room.

But maybe that's just me.

Pearl · 06-03-2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by anitram

There goes Nancy Grace, frothing at the mouth.

Wouldn't that be Greta van Susteren?

JCOSTER · 06-03-2010, 08:41 PM

I am wondering if this guy is an international serial killer and has been doing this the past 5 years and just got caught now????

Pearl · 06-03-2010, 08:43 PM

I wouldn't be surprised. He bullshitted about Natalee and then later was filmed talking about how he dragged her body out to sea.

For some reaason, I am hoping he is found guilty for this case so there could be justice.

anitram · 06-03-2010, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pearl

Wouldn't that be Greta van Susteren?

There is enough froth to go around...(I did see a bit of Nancy today, predictably shrill)

U2387 · 06-03-2010, 11:12 PM

No doubt this kid killed Natalee Holloway.

This case here has overwhelming evidence against him, so we know he has the mindset necessary to kill someone.

He was the last person seen with Natalee.

Maybe he did not get as far as planned with Natalee, odds are she passed out, having drank way more than she could handle(and maybe from something he slipped in a drink) and then he sexually assaulted her. Probably thought she was dead and dumped her at sea, if she wasn't dead, he either drowned her or the sharks ensured she was dead shortly thereafter.

Either way, no doubt this kid is responsible.

At a minimum, for negligence leading to a death and improper disposal of a body.

Natalee Holloway is one of those cases that reminds us that there are sick people in the world ready to take advantage of people when they are not in the best state of mind.

BVS · 06-03-2010, 11:17 PM

I never like to speak in absolutes, so "no doubt" is hard for me to grasp, but I hope something does come out of this...

Popmartijn · 06-04-2010, 01:27 AM

Same here.
And it appears that the Netherlands does not have any exchange agreement with Peru so if he's found guilty he won't be able to sit out his time in a Dutch prison. I've heard that Peruvian cells are not the nicest in the world. So I don't mind if he will be there for the next 25 years (or longer).

deep · 06-04-2010, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVS

Or, he's just really stupid .

Quote:

Alabama authorities: Van der Sloot tried to sell Holloway details
By the CNN Wire Staff
June 3, 2010 8:27 p.m. EDT
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

* Joran van der Sloot faces an arrest warrant on charges of extortion, wire fraud
* Van der Sloot was once main suspect in Natalie Holloway's disappearance in Aruba in 2005
* Complaint alleges he sought $250,000 for location of remains, details of death

(CNN) -- Joran van der Sloot faces an arrest warrant on charges of extortion and wire fraud in Alabama, U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance said Thursday.

The charges are unrelated to van der Sloot's status as a suspect in the killing of a Peruvian woman.

The complaint alleges that van der Sloot tried to extort $250,000 from an individual in exchange for the location of the remains of Alabama teen Natalee Holloway and the circumstances surrounding her death, Vance said.

Van der Sloot was once the main suspect in Holloway's disappearance in Aruba in 2005.

The announcement of the arrest warrant came on the same day that the Dutch citizen was apprehended in Chile in the killing of 21-year-old Stephany Flores Ramirez in Peru.

Vance called the timing "strangely a coincidence."

The Alabama investigation had been going on for about six weeks, she said.

The arrest warrant will go through the Interpol system in an effort to lead to van der Sloot's prosecution in the United States, Vance said.

stupid seems to be the right word.

Moonlit_Angel · 06-04-2010, 02:16 AM

Ooh, an extortion plot to further tease the poor woman's family. Classy.

Yeah, that definitely puts him in the "moron" category, and definitely adds to his suspicions. Such a shame that yet another family has to be tied to this whole mess-I hope both of those girls' families find the peace they deserve, and I hope they find out once and for all who really did this, and throw the book at them.

Angela

MrsSpringsteen · 06-07-2010, 11:45 AM

There's surveillance video from the hotel-he's picking up his room key and a girl who sure appears to be Stephany Flores is walking behind him and into the elevator. Four hours later the video shows him walking out by himself in a new shirt and carrying a duffel bag.

There's no doubt in my mind that he killed Natalee and this girl. He was a spoiled punk when he did it the first time (and probably a psychopath too, who knows) and he was only made sicker and bolder by getting away with it. He's not "stupid". I sure hope he doesn't get away with it this time and that that smirk is wiped off of his face for good.

deep · 06-08-2010, 12:35 AM

Van der Sloot confesses to murder, Peruvian authorities say - CNN.com

dazzlingamy · 06-08-2010, 05:56 AM

that story seems to have some weird things going on. Why if the receptionist called his room at 11pm, and believed after no answer he was sleeping, then notice at 12am hehadn't paid a bill and went up to his room to talk to him about it. Then when no one answered the door, she decided to go again and use a key? I'd be mighty pissed if i was at a hotel and some employee let them into my room at 1am to check on a bill! Then she notices the body freaks out and suddenly has time to turn the tv off and the lights?
hmmmm. Not saying he didn't do it, but what a strange timeline!

Pearl · 06-08-2010, 07:15 AM

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There are now suspicions that van der Sloot -- the son of a former judge and attorney on Aruba -- may have staged his attempted getaway using money raised through extortion. On the day that he was arrested in Chile, he was charged in the U.S. with trying to procure $250,000 from Holloway's family in return for revealing the location of her body and describing how she died. American prosecutors say $15,000 was transferred into a Dutch bank account in his name on May 10, four days before he arrived in Peru.

Van der Sloot Confession: Police Say Dutchman Admits Killing Stephany Flores in Peru - AOL News

Unbelievable. This punk must be a true psychopath. I hope he gets what he deserves in Peru and both families - the Holloways' and the Flores' - will find closure.

MrsSpringsteen · 06-08-2010, 08:48 AM

Gee what a surprise. If the video didn't exist I bet there'd be no confession-at least until DNA results. Is he going to confess to killing Natalee now and at least allow her parents some small ounce of ____ ? I don't even know what word could sufficiently describe it, there's really nothing

06-03-2010, 03:34 PM	#1
BrownEyedBoy Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: San Pedro Sula, Honduras Posts: 3,511 Local Time: 12:16 PM	Natalee Holloway suspect arrested again for suspected murder Holloway suspect detained in Peru killing - Americas- msnbc.com This was a case that always disturbed me because of how this poor girl simply vanished and was never found. I've always felt so sad for the family that had to go through not knowing what happened to their daughter. Well, apparently, the main suspect is in a similar scenario again. Thoughts? __________________

06-03-2010, 04:49 PM	#2
BVS Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: between my head and heart Posts: 41,232 Local Time: 01:16 PM	I saw this and immediately thought two things: This guy is either just in the wrong place at the wrong time and people are really out to get him. Or, he's just really stupid with maybe a mix of rage issues... It should be interesting. Hopefully we can find closure to both. I've always felt for Natalee's family not having any kind of closure. __________________

06-08-2010, 08:48 AM	#20
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,812 Local Time: 02:16 PM	Gee what a surprise. If the video didn't exist I bet there'd be no confession-at least until DNA results. Is he going to confess to killing Natalee now and at least allow her parents some small ounce of ____ ? I don't even know what word could sufficiently describe it, there's really nothing __________________

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06-03-2010, 06:14 PM	#3
the iron horse Rock n' Roll Doggie Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: in a glass of CheerWine Posts: 3,266 Local Time: 02:16 PM	There is justice either in this world or the next. Wrongs will be righted. We will eventually reap what we sow. That is what I believe.

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anitram Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: NY Posts: 18,918 Local Time: 02:16 PM	There goes Nancy Grace, frothing at the mouth.

06-03-2010, 08:35 PM	#6
corianderstem Blue Crack Distributor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 64,498 Local Time: 11:16 AM	Because now she has fodder for another 800 shows. I don't know, if I were a notorious prime suspect in the case of a missing girl, I'd go out of my way to make sure to steer clear of women ending up dead in my hotel room. But maybe that's just me.

06-03-2010, 08:41 PM	#8
JCOSTER ONE love, blood, life Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: It's a very, very mad world. Posts: 14,971 Local Time: 01:16 PM	I am wondering if this guy is an international serial killer and has been doing this the past 5 years and just got caught now????

06-03-2010, 08:43 PM	#9
Pearl Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 5,741 Local Time: 02:16 PM	I wouldn't be surprised. He bullshitted about Natalee and then later was filmed talking about how he dragged her body out to sea. For some reaason, I am hoping he is found guilty for this case so there could be justice.

06-03-2010, 11:12 PM	#11
U2387 Refugee Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 2,365 Local Time: 02:16 PM	No doubt this kid killed Natalee Holloway. This case here has overwhelming evidence against him, so we know he has the mindset necessary to kill someone. He was the last person seen with Natalee. Maybe he did not get as far as planned with Natalee, odds are she passed out, having drank way more than she could handle(and maybe from something he slipped in a drink) and then he sexually assaulted her. Probably thought she was dead and dumped her at sea, if she wasn't dead, he either drowned her or the sharks ensured she was dead shortly thereafter. Either way, no doubt this kid is responsible. At a minimum, for negligence leading to a death and improper disposal of a body. Natalee Holloway is one of those cases that reminds us that there are sick people in the world ready to take advantage of people when they are not in the best state of mind.

06-03-2010, 11:17 PM	#12
BVS Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: between my head and heart Posts: 41,232 Local Time: 01:16 PM	I never like to speak in absolutes, so "no doubt" is hard for me to grasp, but I hope something does come out of this...

06-04-2010, 01:27 AM	#13
Popmartijn Blue Crack Supplier Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 32,853 Local Time: 08:16 PM	Same here. And it appears that the Netherlands does not have any exchange agreement with Peru so if he's found guilty he won't be able to sit out his time in a Dutch prison. I've heard that Peruvian cells are not the nicest in the world. So I don't mind if he will be there for the next 25 years (or longer).

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Moonlit_Angel Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a dimension known as the Twilight Zone...do de doo doo, do de doo doo... Posts: 20,774 Local Time: 01:16 PM	Ooh, an extortion plot to further tease the poor woman's family. Classy. Yeah, that definitely puts him in the "moron" category, and definitely adds to his suspicions. Such a shame that yet another family has to be tied to this whole mess-I hope both of those girls' families find the peace they deserve, and I hope they find out once and for all who really did this, and throw the book at them. Angela

06-07-2010, 11:45 AM	#16
MrsSpringsteen Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 28,812 Local Time: 02:16 PM	There's surveillance video from the hotel-he's picking up his room key and a girl who sure appears to be Stephany Flores is walking behind him and into the elevator. Four hours later the video shows him walking out by himself in a new shirt and carrying a duffel bag. There's no doubt in my mind that he killed Natalee and this girl. He was a spoiled punk when he did it the first time (and probably a psychopath too, who knows) and he was only made sicker and bolder by getting away with it. He's not "stupid". I sure hope he doesn't get away with it this time and that that smirk is wiped off of his face for good.

06-08-2010, 12:35 AM	#17
deep Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: A far distance down. Posts: 28,603 Local Time: 10:16 AM	Van der Sloot confesses to murder, Peruvian authorities say - CNN.com

06-08-2010, 05:56 AM	#18
dazzlingamy Refugee Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The city of blinding lights and amazing coffee - Melbourne. Posts: 2,468 Local Time: 05:16 AM	that story seems to have some weird things going on. Why if the receptionist called his room at 11pm, and believed after no answer he was sleeping, then notice at 12am hehadn't paid a bill and went up to his room to talk to him about it. Then when no one answered the door, she decided to go again and use a key? I'd be mighty pissed if i was at a hotel and some employee let them into my room at 1am to check on a bill! Then she notices the body freaks out and suddenly has time to turn the tv off and the lights? hmmmm. Not saying he didn't do it, but what a strange timeline!