Mass Shooting at South Carolina AME Church

[PhilsFan]

Nine are dead, six females and three males. The shooter, still on the loose, is a white male in his 20s.

[Irvine511]

It was an African American church. He told his victims that they were raping "our" women and we're taking over "our" country.

And because he's an American male he gets all the guns he wants.

You know the rest.

[Vlad n U 2]

Would it be unreasonable to label this a terrorist act? By the sounds of what Irvine is saying it reeks of a white supremacist attack.

[cobl04]

Are you insane Vlad? Don't be offensive! He is a troubled loner. Not a terrorist or a thug.

[cobl04]

There's just been a shooting at a Memphis church as well.

[Hewson]

Originally Posted by cobl04

there's just been a shooting at a memphis church as well.

nm...what I saw was old news.

[cobl04]

Yeah was just going off Twitter. No concrete news yet.

I don't think there's been two shootings in 24 hours in Australia in my lifetime.

[PhilsFan]

Mass shootings or just shootings in general?

[cobl04]

Mass shootings. We have shootings but they are almost exclusively someone shooting someone they know over money or drugs.

[Vlad n U 2]

[PhilsFan]

We have a suspect, via the FBI. 21-year-old Dylann Roof.





The mugshot is apparently from a recent trespassing arrest.

[elevated_u2_fan]

he looks stable

[Vlad n U 2]

South African apartheid flag on his jacket, not sure what the green and white flag below represents (EDIT: Rhodesian flag, aka colonial Zimbabwe), but it says much more than enough about him. Fascist scum.

[bobsaget77]

This scumbag is going to rot in hell for eternity. What a worthless piece of human garbage, this is why torture tactics don't go far enough. This guy deserves brutal torture and suffering before they end his horrible and worthless existence.



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[Diemen]

Originally Posted by bobsaget77

This scumbag is going to rot in hell for eternity. What a worthless piece of human garbage, this is why torture tactics don't go far enough. This guy deserves brutal torture and suffering before they end his horrible and worthless existence.

Because as we all know, bloodthirsty revenge is the best form of justice.

[bobsaget77]

Originally Posted by Diemen

Because as we all know, bloodthirsty revenge is the best form of justice.

In this case, yes it is.


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[BVS]

Become a monster to bring justice to a monster... I think Jesus said that.


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[Diemen]

Yes, torture as justice is an excellent idea. It's always good when you share favored capital punishment methods with ruthless dictators.

[bobsaget77]

There's a point where a message has to be sent to these psychos. They become exactly what they want when they have these mass shootings. Their name becomes famous, they sit in an isolated area and then either rot in prison or die. That's simply not enough. Now, do we need to chop off all of his fingers and gouge out his eyes? No, probably not. But they allow these scumbags a quick and pain less death.
Will it stop people from doing these shootings and heinous crimes? No. But if these shootings were properly handled instead of a massive media coverage about their names and lives and if these murderers actually had to suffer for their actions, a lot of these nuts probably wouldn't be as common. This isn't a gun issue like many of the liberal nutjobs like to make it, because every time a gun is involved, all deaths need to be disregarded so we can focus on guns again. Because if someone is driven to commit mass murder, there is absolutely no way they can find access to a weapon if guns are illegal. (Sarcasm) It's a morality issue and won't be fixed, but treating these situations better instead of always blaming guns would be a step forward. But of course, no one can gain political leverage from that, so it won't happen.


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[Diemen]

Originally Posted by bobsaget77

There's a point where a message has to be sent to these psychos.

Most of these psychos usually go suicide by cop. They're expecting to die. To be martyred for their cause, if you will. What "message" gets sent if we torture them?

They become exactly what they want when they have these mass shootings. Their name becomes famous, they sit in an isolated area and then either rot in prison or die. That's simply not enough.

For you, maybe.

But if these shootings were properly handled instead of a massive media coverage about their names and lives and if these murderers actually had to suffer for their actions, a lot of these nuts probably wouldn't be as common.

I agree that the media could handle this much better, and if the media didn't make such a circus about the killers and their past - if the media didn't make every mass murderer a celebrity, then maybe that would be a deterrent, but torture sure as hell wouldn't be.

This isn't a gun issue like many of the liberal nutjobs like to make it, because every time a gun is involved, all deaths need to be disregarded so we can focus on guns again.

Right, because talking about the insanely easy access to guns is disregarding the deaths caused by them?

It's a morality issue and won't be fixed,

You certainly won't fix a morality issue by perpetuating the cycle of violence.