Mass Shooting at Connecticut Elementary School

Pearl · 12-14-2012, 02:01 PM

Just gets sadder and sadder.

Everyone at work is keeping eye on the news. One woman left early to get her son, who is a Kindergartener in Long Island. She was very emotional.

There needs to be tighter gun control. There's no way this issue can be neglected anymore.

U2Fanatic4ever · 12-14-2012, 02:04 PM

2 Shootings in the same week.. c'mon lets talk about this problem now.

Just had a conversation with my 15 yr old son, and even tho he didn't say much I know he is distressed by this. I plan on hugging him as soon as I get home.

mikal · 12-14-2012, 02:12 PM

I seriously want to home school my daughter.

PS. is it true that the shooter's dad has also been found dead?

edit. It was the shooter's mother. she was a teacher there.

Pearl · 12-14-2012, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikal

I seriously want to home school my daughter.

PS. is it true that the shooter's dad has also been found dead?

The reports go that his father was found dead in New Jersey and the gunman went to the Connecticut school to kill his mother who was a teacher there.

No words are strong enough here.

trojanchick99 · 12-14-2012, 02:16 PM

The reports are saying that the shooter's mother was a kindergarten teacher and everyone in her classroom was killed. Excuse me while I go get sick.

deep · 12-14-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by namkcuR

I'm not sure about that. If this isn't a turning point, what possibly could be?

nothing

with each 'new' incident the arguments remain the same.

1. the gun was not the problem, the law breaker was
2. in Texas or (insert state here) people have the right to carry everywhere, and they will give examples of when a law abiding person used his gun to stop a bad person.
3. we have enough laws on books, we don't need new laws, we just need better enforcement
4. look what just happened in China 22 kids, not 18 were killied where guns are banned by a knife, people that want to kill will find a means to do so.
5. because bad people do bad things, we should not lose our Constitutional rights, why should bad people control what rights good people have

( I could probably write 10 more)

LemonMelon · 12-14-2012, 02:29 PM

I'm as cynical about this as deep, which is terrible.

Nothing is going to happen. Our culture is fucked at a profound, irreconcilable level. DEY TOOK ERR GUNS DEY TOOK ERR JRBBBS

U2Fanatic4ever · 12-14-2012, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trojanchick99

The reports are saying that the shooter's mother was a kindergarten teacher and everyone in her classroom was killed. Excuse me while I go get sick.

oh man..

. me too..

reports also that the shooter's younger brother is being held.

Pearl · 12-14-2012, 02:32 PM

So it was a family thing? Holy shit.

Of course, the brother will say they were abused by their parents and crap like that. Whatever. That's not an excuse to kill anyone, especially children!

anitram · 12-14-2012, 02:43 PM

From the other thread:

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Originally Posted by u2popmofo

That all said, it still crushes me that these things continually happen in the US. What's wrong with our society and culture? Why does this stuff not happen in other countries where firearms are just as readily available?

Which other comparable western democratic country firearms "just as readily available"?

trojanchick99 · 12-14-2012, 02:47 PM

According to the Washington Post, Switzerland and Israel.

This is a very interesting article about gun violence in the US.

Eleven facts about guns and mass shootings in the United States

BoMac · 12-14-2012, 02:48 PM

Unconfirmed reports that one of the parents of the slain children has committed suicide.

It's getting worse by the second.

PhilsFan · 12-14-2012, 02:49 PM

I cannot compare this to anything.

anitram · 12-14-2012, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by trojanchick99

According to the Washington Post, Switzerland and Israel.

Israel is essentially a militarized state under a constant threat of violent attacks, so I don't think they are a good point of comparison.

So aside from Switzerland, every other western nation has seen it fit to restrict access to firearms.

mikal · 12-14-2012, 02:56 PM

I feel like that annoying parent that says "I don't know what I would do if it was my kid", but I can't help but have this overwhelming feeling of sadness. These kids are maybe a year or two older than my daughter. Their worst crime in life is maybe not sharing or not cleaning up after themselves.

deep · 12-14-2012, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikal

I feel like that annoying parent that says "I don't know what I would do if it was my kid", but I can't help but have this overwhelming feeling of sadness. These kids are maybe a year or two older than my daughter. Their worst crime in life is maybe not sharing or not cleaning up after themselves.

it is truly is unimaginable
to send a child to school, and then never see them again

as Americans we are all going to be talking about this, why? because it is so relatable, we all have young innocent children in our lives.

Pearl · 12-14-2012, 03:07 PM

HuffPo is reporting that the gunman had four guns with him.

The thing about tightening gun control is that there's got to be a way to prevent illegal sales of gun. It is possible to go online and get a gun, just like buying drugs off the internet. I wouldn't be surprise if that is how this psycho got his firearms.

MrsSpringsteen · 12-14-2012, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikal

I feel like that annoying parent that says "I don't know what I would do if it was my kid", but I can't help but have this overwhelming feeling of sadness. These kids are maybe a year or two older than my daughter. Their worst crime in life is maybe not sharing or not cleaning up after themselves.

We should all have that feeling. I don't have any kids and I do.

He killed the principal too. 20 kids and 6 adults.

I feel sick too. This guy must have shown some signs. People need to stop being in denial of signs like that. I heard on the radio that he had lots of angry stuff on his Twitter.

lemonfly · 12-14-2012, 03:12 PM

As others have noted, nothing meaningful will get done with regards to gun control. If anything, schools will start hiring armed security guards to patrol the premises. America is all kinds of fucked right now, and I'm kinda glad I don't live there anymore. If I ever have kids, Europe is where I'll raise them.

U2Fanatic4ever · 12-14-2012, 03:13 PM

this..

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CBS News ‏@CBSNews
BREAKING: Source familiar with investigation says Adam Lanza is shooter & is deceased; Ryan Lanza, his older brother, being questioned in NJ

12-14-2012, 02:01 PM	#1
Pearl Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 5,741 Local Time: 06:03 AM	Mass Shooting at Connecticut Elementary School Just gets sadder and sadder. Everyone at work is keeping eye on the news. One woman left early to get her son, who is a Kindergartener in Long Island. She was very emotional. There needs to be tighter gun control. There's no way this issue can be neglected anymore. __________________

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U2Fanatic4ever Blue Crack Addict Join Date: May 2001 Location: nowhere..........man Posts: 20,254 Local Time: 06:03 AM	2 Shootings in the same week.. c'mon lets talk about this problem now. Just had a conversation with my 15 yr old son, and even tho he didn't say much I know he is distressed by this. I plan on hugging him as soon as I get home. __________________

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12-14-2012, 02:12 PM	#3
mikal Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Black Lodge Posts: 28,295 Local Time: 05:03 AM	I seriously want to home school my daughter. PS. is it true that the shooter's dad has also been found dead? edit. It was the shooter's mother. she was a teacher there.

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trojanchick99 Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Feliz, CA (between Hollywood and Downtown LA) Posts: 8,352 Local Time: 03:03 AM	The reports are saying that the shooter's mother was a kindergarten teacher and everyone in her classroom was killed. Excuse me while I go get sick.

12-14-2012, 02:29 PM	#7
LemonMelon More 5G Than Man Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hollywoo Posts: 68,784 Local Time: 03:03 AM	I'm as cynical about this as deep, which is terrible. Nothing is going to happen. Our culture is fucked at a profound, irreconcilable level. DEY TOOK ERR GUNS DEY TOOK ERR JRBBBS

12-14-2012, 02:32 PM	#9
Pearl Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 5,741 Local Time: 06:03 AM	So it was a family thing? Holy shit. Of course, the brother will say they were abused by their parents and crap like that. Whatever. That's not an excuse to kill anyone, especially children!

12-14-2012, 02:47 PM	#11
trojanchick99 Rock n' Roll Doggie FOB Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Los Feliz, CA (between Hollywood and Downtown LA) Posts: 8,352 Local Time: 03:03 AM	According to the Washington Post, Switzerland and Israel. This is a very interesting article about gun violence in the US. Eleven facts about guns and mass shootings in the United States

12-14-2012, 02:49 PM	#13
PhilsFan Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: South Philadelphia Posts: 19,218 Local Time: 06:03 AM	I cannot compare this to anything.

12-14-2012, 02:56 PM	#15
mikal Blue Crack Addict Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Black Lodge Posts: 28,295 Local Time: 05:03 AM	I feel like that annoying parent that says "I don't know what I would do if it was my kid", but I can't help but have this overwhelming feeling of sadness. These kids are maybe a year or two older than my daughter. Their worst crime in life is maybe not sharing or not cleaning up after themselves.

12-14-2012, 03:07 PM	#17
Pearl Rock n' Roll Doggie VIP PASS Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NYC Posts: 5,741 Local Time: 06:03 AM	HuffPo is reporting that the gunman had four guns with him. The thing about tightening gun control is that there's got to be a way to prevent illegal sales of gun. It is possible to go online and get a gun, just like buying drugs off the internet. I wouldn't be surprise if that is how this psycho got his firearms.

12-14-2012, 03:12 PM	#19
lemonfly Refugee Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,381 Local Time: 05:03 AM	As others have noted, nothing meaningful will get done with regards to gun control. If anything, schools will start hiring armed security guards to patrol the premises. America is all kinds of fucked right now, and I'm kinda glad I don't live there anymore. If I ever have kids, Europe is where I'll raise them.