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04-22-2013, 01:45 AM
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He actually says "we don't have any background checks on the First Amendment".
__________________ I'm all for listening to all sides of an argument but I'm pretty sure the pro-gun dude in that video might be mentally ill. |
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04-22-2013, 08:27 AM
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I implicitly referred to this site in the Boston bombings discussion, but the link is more appropriate here:
__________________Gun-death tally: Every American gun death since Newtown Sandy Hook shooting (INTERACTIVE). - Slate Magazine As of now (though I'm not sure if the page hasn't been updated for the past three days or if there really were no gun deaths) there are 3,530 gun deaths since December 14 (the Newton shooting), including 63 children. But yeah, those are 'isolated cases', so probably not important enough to do something about it... 
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04-22-2013, 09:08 AM
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There's a huge billboard not far from the bombing site, don't know how many years it's been there. One that keeps track of handgun deaths ( I think now it might be number of children, not sure. It's near Fenway and I haven't been there since last year), it was updated to include Sandy Hook. MA has some of the strictest gun regulations and laws. So I don't really understand the whole comparison of sorts. That somehow if you care about this marathon bombing you don't care or care enough about handgun deaths. I was just as disgusted about the failure of simple background check changes as I was about these bombings, and I live where they happened. But frankly it's a different kind of disgusted, because I completely expected that failure. I have voted based on that, have sent e-mails, have signed up on the Brady campaign web site. I was disgusted by the fact that gun control and gun violence came up ONCE in the election campaign debates. The President I voted for never did anything about it that I know of until after Sandy Hook. So I'm disgusted by that too.
The tragic fact is that we have politicians who are putting their political careers above the people they are supposed to be representing, and in some cases they ARE reflecting the beliefs of those people. So I don't know what we are expected to do about that, because we live in a country with a "representative" government. We aren't a monolith where I can control what's going on in other states. I've done everything I can, and I do care about handgun violence and death every bit as much as I care about terrorism. I grew up around guns but I've never shot them and I don't want to. I care about bombings everywhere too, not just in the US. I hate war, any war, all kinds of war. Was completely against the war in Iraq. What the media focuses on is far beyond my control. I'm hardly alone in that, or in caring about handgun violence as much as all of this. I am disgusted by the lack of action, and wonder how many people have to die by handgun before something ever gets done. As long as politicians are in control of that, it will be NEVER. That is the disgusting completely warped reality that we live with. That was can't even have basic common sense gun laws and regulations. |
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04-24-2013, 11:16 AM
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Part two (of three) of this piece is even better: The Daily Show with Jon Stewart - April 23, 2013
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04-24-2013, 12:55 PM
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04-24-2013, 01:37 PM
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Nothing will ever get done. This is just what America is, a great country, but also unecessarily violent and dangerous too.
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04-24-2013, 02:29 PM
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Don't forget completley not in controll of it's own government..
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04-24-2013, 05:41 PM
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Because your government is populated by a bunch of slimy fucking rats.
Money is too closely tied to your politics. That's what it distills down to |
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04-24-2013, 08:41 PM
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Agree. Money influences our government. How do you get it out though?
You can say reform but when your politicians are bought out.... |
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04-25-2013, 07:05 PM
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There's a lot to think about and discuss in that sentence. |
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04-25-2013, 07:12 PM
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04-25-2013, 07:19 PM
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Press >>> Play Father of mine Tell me where have you been You know I just closed my eyes My whole world disappeared Father of mine Take me back to the day Yeah when I was still your golden boy Back before you went away I remember blue skies Walking the block I loved it when you held me high I loved TO HEAR YOU TALK You would take me to the movie You would take me to the beach You would take me to a place inside That's so hard to reach Oh Father of mine Tell me where did you go Yeah you had the world inside your hand But you did not seem to know Father of mine Tell me what do you see When you look back at your wasted life And you don't see me I was ten years old Doing all that I could It wasn't easy for me To be a scared white boy In a black neighborhood Sometimes you would send me a birthday card With a five dollar bill I never understood you then And I guess I never will Daddy gave me a name My daddy gave me a name Then he walked away Daddy gave me a name Then he walked away My daddy he gave me a name Oh yeah Oh yeah Daddy gave me a name Daddy gave me a name Then he walked away Daddy gave me a name Then he walked away My daddy gave me a name Yeah Yeah Oh yeah Father of mine Tell me where have you been Yea I just closed my eyes And the world disappeared Father of mine Tell me how do you sleep With the children you abandoned And the wife I saw you beat I will never be safe I will never be sane I will always be weird inside I will always be lame Now that I"m a grown man With a child of my own And I swear I'll never let her know All the pain I have known Then he walked away Daddy gave me a name Then he walked away My daddy gave me a name Then he walked away My daddy gave me a name Then he walked away My daddy gave me a name Then he walked away (yeah) Then he walked away (yeah) Then he walked away (oh yeah) ~Everclear |
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04-25-2013, 07:24 PM
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Dum, dum, dum, honey what have you done? Dum, dum, dum it's the sound of my gun. Dum, dum, dum, honey what have you done? Dum, dum, dum it's the sound Janie's got a gun Janie's got a gun Her whole world's come undone From lookin' straight at the sun What did her daddy do? What did he put you through? They said when Janie was arrested they found him underneath a train But man, he had it comin' Now that Janie's got a gun she ain't never gonna be the same. Janie's got a gun Janie's got a gun Her dog day's just begun Now everybody is on the run Tell me now it's untrue. What did her daddy do? He jacked a little bitty baby The man has got to be insane They say the spell that he was under the lightning and the thunder knew that someone had to stop the rain Run away, run away from the pain yeah, yeah yeah yeah Run away run away from the pain yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Run away, run away, run, run away Janie's got a gun Janie's got a gun Her dog day's just begun Now everybody is on the run What did her daddy do? It's Janie's last I.O.U. She had to take him down easy and put a bullet in his brain She said 'cause nobody believes me. The man was such a sleeze. He ain't never gonna be the same. Run away, run away from the pain yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah Run away run away from the pain yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Run away, run away, run, run away Janie's got a gun Janie's got a gun Janie's got a gun Everybody is on the run Janie's got a gun Her dog day's just begun Now everybody is on the run Because Janie's got a gun Janie's got a gun Her dog day's just begun Now everybody is on the run Janie's got a gun |
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04-25-2013, 07:36 PM
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Press > Play
At home Drawing pictures Of mountain tops With him on top Lemon yellow sun Arms raised in a V Dead lay in pools of maroon below Daddy didn't give attention To the fact that mommy didn't care King Jeremy the wicked Ruled his world Jeremy spoke in class today Jeremy spoke in class today Clearly I remember Pickin' on the boy Seemed a harmless little fuck But we unleashed a lion Gnashed his teeth And bit the recess lady's breast How could I forget He hit me with a surprise left My jaw left hurting Dropped wide open Just like the day Like the day I heard Daddy didn't give affection And the boy was something that mommy wouldn't wear King Jeremy the wicked Ruled his world Jeremy spoke in class today Jeremy spoke in class today Try to forget this... Try to erase this... From the blackboard. ~Pearl Jam |
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04-25-2013, 07:42 PM
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Oh Jive, he showed you.
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04-25-2013, 07:44 PM
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Press > Play
Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop *POP*(2x) Call my baby Lollipop Tell you why 'Cause he's sweeter than an apple pie And when he does his shaky rockin' dance Man I haven't got a chance I call him Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop *POP* Sweeter than candy on a stick Huckleberry, cherry, or lime If you have a choice he'd be your pick But Lollipop is mine... Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop *POP* Crazy way he thrills-a me Tell you why Just like a lightning from the sky He loves to kiss me 'Till I can't see straight GEE, my Lollipop is great! I call him... Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop *POP* Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop Lollipop Oh Lolli Lolli Lolli Lollipop oh Lollipop |
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04-25-2013, 07:57 PM
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Would be a much different story if Jeremy and Janie only had a knife.
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04-25-2013, 08:14 PM
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What the fuck just happened in here?
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04-25-2013, 08:58 PM
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I think we just turned this thread into a musical
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04-25-2013, 10:02 PM
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I'm appalled.
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