Mass Shooting at Connecticut Elementary School

[BoMac]

There was a demand for more safety and security at airports in the aftermath of 9/11 and other high-profile plane bombings. So why is it that these tragic events cannot provide any traction for meaningful action on gun laws?

[U2Fanatic4ever]

small miracles..

Gawker

[anitram]

Michael Bloomberg:

"With all the carnage from gun violence in our country, it's still almost impossible to believe that a mass shooting in a kindergarten class could happen. It has come to that. Not even kindergarteners learning their A,B,Cs are safe. We heard after Columbine that it was too soon to talk about gun laws. We heard it after Virginia Tech. After Tucson and Aurora and Oak Creek. And now we are hearing it again. For every day we wait, 34 more people are murdered with guns. Today, many of them were five-year olds. President Obama rightly sent his heartfelt condolences to the families in Newtown. But the country needs him to send a bill to Congress to fix this problem. Calling for 'meaningful action' is not enough. We need immediate action. We have heard all the rhetoric before. What we have not seen is leadership - not from the White House and not from Congress. That must end today. This is a national tragedy and it demands a national response. My deepest sympathies are with the families of all those affected, and my determination to stop this madness is stronger than ever."

[trojanchick99]

Originally Posted by Pearl

HuffPo is reporting that the gunman had four guns with him.

The thing about tightening gun control is that there's got to be a way to prevent illegal sales of gun. It is possible to go online and get a gun, just like buying drugs off the internet. I wouldn't be surprise if that is how this psycho got his firearms.

Actually, I would be surprised if those guns and ammo weren't legally bought. In the majority of these types of massacres, the weaponry has been obtained legally.

[MrsSpringsteen]

ABC is saying he might have had Aspergers and OCD, and that his mother was strict. A friend or neighbor saying this.

[U2Mama]

I am so heartbroken by all this. Hugged my kids extra long when they came home from school today.

[trojanchick99]

From the Newtown Patch:

The man identified in media reports Friday as the shooter has told friends that he thinks his developmentally disabled brother may have committed the crime, Patch has learned.
A close friend of Ryan Lanza who would not be identified told Patch that he spoke to Lanza as Lanza made his way home from work to Hoboken. Lanza also took to his Facebook page to rail against CNN naming him as the suspect in the shooting in Newtown, Conn. ...
Lanza’s mother, Nancy, a school teacher, is believed to be among the dead.
Patch was among the media outlets to highlight and link to reports naming Ryan Lanza as the alleged shooter. Police haven't yet officially confirmed the identity of the gunman.

[Pearl]

There are reports that the actual shooter, Adam Lanza, used his brother's ID to get into the school.

But wasn't the real Ryan Lanza also with him? Isn't he in custody and being questioned by police?

[LemonMelon]

Originally Posted by BoMac

There was a demand for more safety and security at airports in the aftermath of 9/11 and other high-profile plane bombings. So why is it that these tragic events cannot provide any traction for meaningful action on gun laws?

In 'murica, real change is diverted by people making the same defensive arguments because they like guns. They want to feel safe and secure, and having a means of protecting oneself provides that. In addition, the Constitution provided the right to bear arms in order to offer a sense of security in wartime, which was and is grossly misapplied to our present context. As long as this holds true, nothing will change.

That's where parenting comes in. People like Mikal with little kids, please don't give in to fear. Don't teach your children that they should fear guns, or that they need one to feel safe. Teach them self-defense. Make them feel comfortable in their own skin. Point to these horrible tragedies and change their thinking not so that these calamities will stop, but so that we can start making real progress in modifying what is obviously a flawed system. I'm not calling for a gun ban. I'm calling for us to step back and think what guns actually offer us and why our children need them. The culture isn't going to change overnight, it will take decades, but I hope that, in time, the response to a call for gun restriction isn't "hell NO, you stay away from my gun" but "alright, yeah, maybe this isn't working." Because it isn't, at all. And the former response is going to handily drown out the latter, again.

[MrsSpringsteen]

Wow. It was very irresponsible of media to report that name if that's the case. I don't think these names should be reported at all, they should not be made into celebrities.

[BoMac]

Ryan Lanza's ID was found on Adam's person, which is why police initially identified him as such.

[BoMac]

Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

Wow. It was very irresponsible of media to report that name if that's the case. I don't think these names should be reported at all, they should not be made into celebrities.

If police were incorrect in identifying the shooter and fed that information to the media, I hardly see how that's the media's fault.

[MrsSpringsteen]

Originally Posted by Pearl

But wasn't the real Ryan Lanza also with him? Isn't he in custody and being questioned by police?

Don't think he was with him at all. Questioning does not need custody. They just want any info he has.

[deep]

in this rush to be first, there is going to be a lot of erroneous reporting
we could wait 24 - 48 hours to at least to get some credible information

or we good just all go Benghazi on this.

[corianderstem]

Yes. The media is bad enough already; let's not add to the chaos by re-reporting everything here as soon as it hits one media outlet or another.

[MrsSpringsteen]

Originally Posted by BoMac

If police were incorrect in identifying the shooter and fed that information to the media, I hardly see how that's the media's fault.

I knew nothing about the ID part. I'm not monitoring it all day online, just found out about it a while ago. It is the media's fault if the police never gave them the name. The governor of CT wouldn't, so I don't think the police would. Police on ABC right now still not giving the name. So no need really to jump on that.

[deep]

Originally Posted by corianderstem

Yes. The media is bad enough already; let's not add to the chaos by re-reporting everything here as soon as it hits one media outlet or another.

the images are about the only thing we have now that are true

[corianderstem]

(never mind. deep gonna deep. I don't have to engage with him.)

[deep]

one thing for sure
these students, parents and responders are going to need a lot of help for a long time.

[MrsSpringsteen]

Why are some parents allowing their kids who were there to be interviewed by the media? Right outside the school, after it happened. Not my place to judge but I just don't get it.

Cringeworthy, I had to change the channel.