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Everyone, Megan McArdle has solved all of our problems. Of course that means rewiring our brains to ignore evolution's "Fight or Flight" response but still, it just requires a little bit of training.
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As I mentioned earlier, when an entire class was gunned down in Scotland, the UK changed their gun laws. I haven't really heard of an epidemic of shooting sprees in that country since - anyone else have? |
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The inherent fault in the logic from most people seems to be in the "we can't stop them all so why bother" mentality, as others have pointed out.
Steve, I'm not sure how accurate this is, but from another poster on the board: "From 1984-96 we had a over a dozen of these slayings in Australia, largely copycat killings prompted by media coverage in the US and at home. After one lone nut gunman killed 35 people in 1996, Prime Minister John Howard banned all semi-automatic rifles and pump-action shotguns, and introduced highly restrictive gun licensing laws. Hundreds of thousands of guns were bought back and destroyed. Do you know how many mass shootings we have had since then? Not one. In addition, firearm homicides have dropped 59% with no corresponding increase in non-firearm murders. People kill people, not guns? Rubbish. Guns give the mentally ill ruthlessly efficient killing power, and escalate domestic violence from assault to homicide. The US needs to act now, and the gun lobby needs to wake up to its culpability."
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CNN has an article on how countries like Norway, Finland and Australia dealt with gun control after massacres:
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But those restrictions worked in places where the right to bear arms is not considered a constitutional right or a symbol of freedom.
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Today, Rick Perry said that teachers should carry guns to prevent another massacre. Lets turn the next one into a full blown shoot out. I wouldn't trust some of my colleagues with a butter knife let alone a gun.
I would get on bored administrators carrying stun guns or something to that effect. Or even a hall or wing "warden" carrying a stun gun or pepper spray. |
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I remember looking down at my commercial law professor, who, all joking aside, is the ultimate geek. I say that lovingly as he was a good professor and a wonderful man with whom I've stayed in touch over the years. But this guy was probably the clumsiest, most unathletic man you would come across. He was not in any kind of physical shape that would permit him to react quickly, run up the stairs (our lecture hall was a sloped one), or run anywhere for that matter. He also had half an inch thick glasses and probably worse vision than my grandmother. He stood at the lectern at the front of the lecture hall and the doors to get into the class were at the back. Do you honestly believe that I would want that man wielding a semi-automatic assault rifle in an effort to shoot an assailant standing in the back when 100+ of us were sandwiched between them? It's an absolutely absurd notion. It's as if there is a segment of Americans who think that once they arm themselves to the teeth they're as good as a special ops marine. Truth be told, in a comparable situation, most of these guys would shit themselves long before they'd discharge a weapon. |
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i believe the security guard at Columbine was armed. that went well.
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Not sure what planet these people are from:
Newtown shooting: Gun advocacy group says teachers should be armed | World | News | National Post I did find this part interesting: Quote:
Of course, the very thought of this strikes fear in me: Quote:
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One aspect of this tragedy is that is seems the motivation was to kill
'special ed' children (and teachers). Some may say it is just a coincidence. |
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The only source I was able to find was one pastor with an anonymous story describing it as a 'miracle'. If I saw or heard the kid saying it, I would not question it. But, this link suggest the girl in the dark sweater in the middle of row two, may be the one? Sandy Hook First Grade Class — Photo Of Classroom Slain By Shooter Adam Lanza - Hollywood Life |
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BBC News - Newtown overwhelmed by media
But our footprint in tiny Sandy Hook is exceptionally heavy. And after a while, you have to wonder what more there is to say. The children have gone. Their poor parents are grieving. The police are saying very little. Some reporting comes close to repeatedly ripping a sticking plaster off. Watch or listen or read too much, and it feels as if we are wallowing in other people's pain. Go home, the man in the lobby said, go home. And very soon, I will. |
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I don't know if this is true, but this suggest that all those arguing that he should have been made to get help,
now we will have some saying if she did not do just that, nobody would be dead Quote:
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Good thing she had all those guns handy.
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I still don't understand what connection any of them had to the school.
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