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Gotta give her credit for surviving long in a man's world.
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She's basically the UK version of Reagan: wildly polarizing and almost impossible to assess fairly.
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My condolences to her family, but her ideology was diametrically opposed to my own. People with a social conscience hated her for many valid reasons.
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Whoa, that Socialist Worker cover is appalling.
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Pretty sure some of those cover shots must be artful parodies. "Maggie Dead in Bed At Ritz"?
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It is The Sun.
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It's a little odd to see some of the same people who decried those rejoicing at Osama's death taking great delight in Thatcher's death.
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here's an interesting article:
Margaret Thatcher and misapplied death etiquette | Glenn Greenwald | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk Quote:
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Nm
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Like here in America, right wingers were angry as hell when liberals bashed Reagan when he died. But guaranteed when Clinton or Obama pass away, conservatives will be dancing in the streets. Basically, people aren't saying "respect the dead" here. They're asking everyone to feel the same way they do and anything not like theirs is invalid. As I said, I think Thatcher should be given credit for being a powerful woman in a man's arena. She may not have done things that helped the world much, but she was tough and strong enough to get and stay where she was. Give credit when due? ![]() But hey, I'm not British so I have no idea what it was like living under and after her premiership (is that what its called?). |
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i'm not "taking great delight" in her death, more a weird sense of relief, of an oppression lifted - hard to explain really, but find it dishonest to shed fake tears for the old tyrant and jump on the bandwaggon eulogising her - i criticised her in life and her death doesn't change history... and remember - Bin Laden was murdered - whether that was a good or bad thing, the celebratory aspect didn't sit well with me... i think the two situations are completely different, but hey, you can think it's all the same if you like ![]() |
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ok, well, she has always been given credit for that particular achievement, of being a strong woman in a man's world, that's why i found your comment a bit odd... however, she certainly was not a feminist icon...
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There is the absolute thinnest line separating what we think of as Conservatism and Liberalism in the West. In situations like these, it's blatantly obvious that both sides are full of the exact same type of shitty human beings who rejoice in bad things happening to anyone who doesn't agree with them.
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How influential could she have been in the year 2013 anyway? I mean, I don't live in Britain, so maybe I'm missing something, but she hasn't been a member of parliament in over 20 years. She still had a voice, but her death doesn't stop any orders from being made. It doesn't directly benefit the world in any meaningful way really, so I see no reason to feel upbeat about her death.
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