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What a disgusting policy.
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Cobbler wants to sit next to young kids. Sick!
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I think that's why Samuel L Jackson was so pissed off in Snakes on a Plane.
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But I also fear that we run the risk of making it sound like danger lurks around every corner and if someone even accidentally touches you for some reason (bumps into you or something like that) it's time to sound the alarm. If I had kids, I'd want them to be safe, absolutely, but I also don't want them to walk through life paranoid. Plus, if a parent is that worried about their kid encountering scary adults, then I would think that parent wouldn't feel comfortable with letting their kid go on a plane ride alone to begin with. By allowing a kid to go on a plane unsupervised, that tells me you have a level of trust that they know how to behave and that they will be all right. And, as noted in the article, if a child is abused, more often than not it's by someone they know, and not some random person on a plane. Quote:
It was insinuated that him sitting next to kids would be a problem because he could be a potential pedophile. I'd find that pretty insulting, too, if I were in his shoes. Especially since they had absolutely no proof for such an assumption other than he was a man. |
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Anyway, I think the whole thing is utterly ridiculous. I travelled across the Tasman as an unaccompanied minor practically every school holiday period in the late nineties (sometimes with Qantas, generally Air New Zealand). Never molested. In fact, I still have fond memories of two flights where I was seated next to very fun adults ... both males. We played cards and watched TV and coaxed the crew into giving us business class meals. But I guess it was all a ruse to groom me for sex?
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I assume you'd feel the same way if you were told to move because you were presumed to be a potential "threat" to children, then?
It was insinuated that him sitting next to kids would be a problem because he could be a potential pedophile. I'd find that pretty insulting, too, if I were in his shoes. Especially since they had absolutely no proof for such an assumption other than he was a man.[/QUOTE] ^ That's so funny you said that. I lived with a roommate and her three children for several months, however we got into a dispute and she packed up my bags and threw me out, stating, "It was for the best interests of the children. I would prefer not to subject my children to your views." My "views" was that she was a neglectful mother, and I was right. But all in all, being classified as a threat to children pissed me off, but I let it go. If I were in the same position, I would have moved without asking or any non-compliance at all. That's just me. This whole situation could have been avoided. Yes, the flight attendants could have used more tact- I said that already. And if it was a policy that was made TO PROTECT CHILDREN, you bet I'd cooperate because to hell with my little sensitive feelings, it's for the greater good. Although I think the policy is stupid, they were just following policy. We all know a lot of abuse happens with someone trusted, so this policy is quite silly. And on an airplane of all places, a person can't even yawn without me smelling their awful pig breath. So yes this policy is STUPID!!! * Yes I was being tongue in cheek, predators come in all forms, nurses, priests, teachers (often females with younger men aka Letourneau), doctors. I wasn't raised "paranoid" but honey, I knew the correct definition of exploit. The rest of the kids are raised paranoid, while some are completely unaware that what Uncle Ted is doing is not normal... What are the statistics here people? On rapes? On incest? On molestation? On child abuse? Compare that to a person whose feelings were hurt on a plane ride. Really, tell mr sensitive to lock it up and shut up already. And do away with this ridiculous policy. |
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Isn't the policy probably based more on concerns about people who might engage in obscene behavior in the child's presence (exposure, masturbation, intentionally disturbingly explicit speech etc.)--and the fact that children are usually both less savvy and less confident than adults on how to handle such situations--rather than concerns about 'molestation' per se? I used to manage a large bookstore, and I can recall several instances where we had the pleasure of dealing with male customers who were doing one or more of the above in the children's section.
Not that I'm supporting the policy--AFAIK no US airline has ever had such a policy, and I don't see how it could survive a legal challenge here--but just as a point about the likely intent. |
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I'd say lawyers made this policy. Fear of lawsuits, real and frivolous.
How is this any different than male superiors now advised to never have discussions with a female employee in a closed room for fear of a sexual harassment suit? In a he said/she said, he said/child said situation, whom does the burden of proof fall on? |
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I always leave the door open when I'm alone in the room with a student. ALWAYS.
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For real? I meet my boss one-on-one (as we all do, I just happen to be the only person on our team that is female) once every two weeks in his office.
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But still, it doesn't mean it's fair for people to make assumptions about whether or not someone will abuse children, and take action without any sort of logical, concrete proof to do so. |
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It protects everyone.
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my entire office life feels like conversations behind closed doors.
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Great. Now I have that Charlie Rich song in my head.
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i can't say i know it.
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