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Old 02-17-2009, 07:21 PM   #61
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Heidi Klum is too fat to be a runway model

What a complete joke-look at her! She looks amazing. Who would even be looking at her height either?



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The new series of ‘Germany’s Next Top Model’ kicks off tonight on Pro 7 with Heidi as the host once again. She has been a supermodel since the early 90s and has cast her professional eye over young girls for three seasons, deciding who has the looks to cut it in the modeling world - and who doesn’t.

Now her fellow German fashion veteran Wofgang Joop (64) has launched an extraordinary attack on the successful runway star, saying she doesn’t have what it takes to be a top model herself.

“No way,” Joop (64) told BILD. “She is no runway model! Heidi Klum is simply too heavy and has too big a bust. And she always grins so stupidly. That is not avant-garde – that is commercial!”

Would the beautiful Heidi not be able to win her own show?

The designer is not the only person in the business to feel this way about the star. Model agency head Louisa von Minckwitz (45, ‘Louisa Models’) said: “Heidi has hips and voluptuous curves. Ideal measurements for a catwalk model are 87-58-88."

Heidi has 91-69-94.

Von Minckwitz also thinks Heidi is too short: “At 1.76 metres she is five centimetres too short. But, despite everything, she is a dream woman, an advertising icon and a superstar.”

Fashion guru Karl Lagerfeld (75) also snubbed the German model: “I don’t know Heidi Klum. She was never known in France. Claudia Schiffer also doesn’t know who she is.”
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The only word that comes to mind (well, the only word I'll say or write) is bitchy.


I will say I agree her expression isn't typical of the pics of runway models I've seen lately. The typical expression is more "I-want-to-slit-my-wrists-and-die." Every one of them looks hideously unhappy and unpleasant.
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Wow, the elite* of German stupidity in one article. And that one is written by Bild. It can't get better.




*Unfortunately, only a tiny sample.
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“No way,” Joop (64) told BILD. “She is no runway model! Heidi Klum is simply too heavy and has too big a bust. And she always grins so stupidly. That is not avant-garde – that is commercial!”
Oh, for bleep's sake.

Super-skinny runway models with blank, vacant expression seem like the norm from what I've seen. How can something be avant-garde if it is so commonplace?
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Old 02-17-2009, 07:56 PM   #65
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I think this issue is a hard one to tackle, from a feminists point of view. It boils down to control - women should be free to be any shape or size. As soon as you start imposing limits, be it 'not too thin!' or 'not too big!' or 'not too tall!' or 'not too short!' etc, you're just fanning the flames and tightening the grip. The runways don't need to sack thin models and condemn them for being thin... but hire just as many larger models in the first place.
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The only word that comes to mind (well, the only word I'll say or write) is bitchy.


I will say I agree her expression isn't typical of the pics of runway models I've seen lately. The typical expression is more "I-want-to-slit-my-wrists-and-die." Every one of them looks hideously unhappy and unpleasant.
Because those bitches are hungry.
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I will say I agree her expression isn't typical of the pics of runway models I've seen lately. The typical expression is more "I-want-to-slit-my-wrists-and-die." Every one of them looks hideously unhappy and unpleasant.
I looked up photos of his models on billboards and runways and that's pretty much the look he employs for his models as well.
Joop and Lagerfeld are two extremely excentric, beyond borderline crazy characters who you will hardly hear anything intelligent from.
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She does look really "commercial" in that pic. I'm not into modeling or fashion, to each their own. I do think that people tend to way overreact and let their emotions get in the way. It's a gazillion dollar fashion industry, not everyone is going to have what it takes to be on "top" but that's just the way it is. If they want rail thin girls with super human body proportions and vacant expressions on their faces...then I guess that's what they want. It doesn't really have any effect on me or my body image. I'm not sad and depressed because I'm "fatter" than them and can't be a model, nor do I expect the industry to change overnight and be accepting of "fat" people like me.

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I think this issue is a hard one to tackle, from a feminists point of view. It boils down to control - women should be free to be any shape or size. As soon as you start imposing limits, be it 'not too thin!' or 'not too big!' or 'not too tall!' or 'not too short!' etc, you're just fanning the flames and tightening the grip. The runways don't need to sack thin models and condemn them for being thin... but hire just as many larger models in the first place.
I agree. Beautiful women come in all shapes, colours and heights.
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its crazy its crazy its all so fuking crazy and the world going PC mad these days I think by 2011 the world is going to be so fuked up that it might be a serious offense to smile to a stranger or speak at all for fuk sake like, these fuking 'anti-ad-da-da' plonkers are gettin on my little tits so much they thrive on being noticed for niddy biddy shit that seems way too trivial than not wearing matching bra and panties!
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Well there is a no kissing zone now at a train station.


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its crazy, its crazy, Im telling ya

everyone BAIL out now! please, save yourselves.

your kids are going to grow up in a world that will have them chained with limits.



I mean, there is a UK Haribo advert right? yep, great ad featuring family and son gettin dad to sign the confession for stealing some, then son sends in his little sister who USED to shout 'ALIGHT SUNSHINE!' before running up to him and saying other things, now they have CUT THAT SCENE AND THOSE WORDS for some reason and I BET people complained because 'sunshine' was pretty much used in dem British gangster movies so I bet its very un-PC these days.


doesnt stop you calling your colleague a plonker if you didn't like him thou, eh?
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This is hilarious. I read somewhere that another station (in London I think?) has put up "We ENCOURAGE you to kiss!" signs in protest
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I agree that it's sad that society puts such expectations on women, but I think it's wrong to try and control such things.

What if a woman is naturally very thing or she simply likes looking that way? Should she be forced BY LAW to gain weight if she wants to model?

I think the government restricting such things is ridiculous.
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im glad..i seen a pic of some of those girls & it scared me..i dont know how they were staying alive..poor girls
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The model in Glamour Magazine-of course the original picture in the magazine was 3 by 3




Is TV finally accepting average-sized women?
Larger figures fill the screen, but focus of shows remains on weight
By Martha Waggoner
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updated 2:22 p.m. ET, Tues., Aug 25, 2009

RALEIGH, N.C. - Ask model and fashion designer Emme whether television and other media are more accepting of plus-size people, and she quickly corrects you.

"Average women," she says.

The host of the new Fox reality dating show, "More to Love," has been on this campaign since the mid-1990s, when she began telling full-size women to be more accepting of themselves. In her latest venture, she guides a 6-foot-3, 330-pound man as he chooses among 20 women who wear sizes ranging from 14 to 22.

Television is suddenly filled with images of full-figured people — real and fictional — although not as everyday people just living their lives. The shows focus on their size — on "More to Love," the contestants' height and weight, and that of the bachelor, were flashed on the screen as they were introduced in the first episode.

Oxygen's "Dance Your Ass Off" features 12 contestants, weighing a total of 3,000 pounds, who lose weight through dancing, and Lifetime's "Drop Dead Diva" is about a model-wannabe who dies and comes back as plus-size attorney.

The Style Network's reality show "Ruby" is in its second season, telling the story of Ruby Gettinger of Savannah, Ga., who's down to 350 pounds from her highest weight of 716.

"I think these welcomed shows are opening the aperture," on full-size women, said Emme, whose size ranges from a 12/14 to a 14/16. "These are fun shows to watch, and they are really taking the perspective of the full-sized woman and bringing it into the type of package people can relate to."

Some fashion magazines are ahead of the curve — so to speak — on featuring plus-size models. Glamour became serious about it in the past five years, featuring Queen Latifah on the cover in May 2004, said Cindi Leive, the magazine's executive editor. In the past six to 12 months, "there is just more and more of a hunger among women to see images of women that look and feel real.

"There's a sense that being a sort of cookie cutter, homogenous standard of what's beautiful has started to feel a little bit dated," Leive said.

‘I love the woman on p 194’
But the reaction to the 3-inch-by-3-inch photograph on page 194 of the September issue surprised even Leive. "I am gasping with delight," one reader wrote. "I love the woman on p 194," someone else wrote.

Model Lizzi Miller, a 20-year-old who wears a size 12/14, is shown in sideways pose, her arms covering her breasts, only the string of a string bikini visible at the waist. The shocker: Her belly hangs over the string and rests just a bit on her thighs. Not only that, but she's laughing AS IF SHE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW.

"There's a roll in her belly that looks like every woman over the age of 16," Leive said. "And there she is, looking happy and confident and like she loves life and like she's the sexiest thing in the world."

If people do relate to the shows — and Fox hasn't decided whether to renew "More to Love" — it may be because they reflect the image that Americans see in the mirror. The average U.S. woman wears a size 14, and an estimated 56 percent of American women wear plus sizes, which start at size 14 or 16, depending on the brand.

But not everyone is getting on the curves-are-better wagon train. Who can forget the uproar about Jessica Simpson, whose true crime was one of fashion — wearing unattractive, high-waisted jeans? Or Jennifer Love Hewitt defending her bikini look with words that never should have to be uttered — "A size 2 is not fat!"

Women who are the presumed demographic for the shows aren't always with the program either.

Lesley Kinzel, a 32-year-old from Boston who runs a Web site called fatshionista, said while she's pleased that television is more willing to show women her size (24/26), she's not happy with the portrayal of women on "More to Love," which she says features "a ridiculous amount of crying." And don't even ask about "Dance Your Ass Off" with its focus on weight loss.

"More to Love" is "reinforcing the stereotype of miserable, crying fat woman who hates herself," Kinzel says. "That's not my life and that's not the life of my friends."

Forty-one-year-old Cynthia Deis of Raleigh, N.C., who wears a size 16 to 18, says she's just not interested in a show about losing weight or focused on a character's weight: "Why can't it just be a story about a woman who's big and happens to have three girlfriends who she goes out to drink with ...?"

SallyAnn Salsano, executive producer of both "More to Love" and "Dance Your Ass Off" believes the shows present positive images of full-figured people, although from different perspectives. "More to Love" focuses on people who are more comfortable with their weight, while "Dance Your Ass Off" is about people ready to make a change, she says. (Although some of the women on "More to Love" sure seemed unsteady as they cried and said they had never been on a date.)

Salsano, who says she struggles with her own weight, worked previously on "The Bachelor," where both the man and the contestants are pretty much physically perfect.

"When we were casting girls, someone would say, 'that girl's a little too thick,'" Salsano said. "And I would think, I would kill to look like her."

So when Mike Fleiss, creator of "The Bachelor" and "More to Love," came calling again, she was more than ready. "We're finally getting a show for people like us," she recalled him saying.

Still, even host Emme acknowledges that in the best of all possible worlds, the contestants would represent all sizes. And many hope for a future where size isn't such a big deal.

When Glamour recently did a swimsuit fashion shoot with full-figured model Crystal Renn and the copy didn't mention her size, readers loved it, Leive said.

"That is something that is new," she said of the lack of editorial comment. "And women are ready to see that happen."
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I've been reading about this on Jezebel, and I saw the model and Glamour's editor appear on CNN the other night. Isn't it a gorgeous picture? She looks so happy and confident and sexy.
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Thanks for commenting

Yes it is a gorgeous picture- I Googled for some other photos of her and she's beautiful
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In the Nov issue of Glamour on stands next week

On the C.L.: Are You Ready to Start a Body Image Revolution? Oh, Wait--You Already Did!: Vitamin G: Health & Fitness: glamour.com

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Supermodels Who Aren't Superthin: Meet the Women Who Proudly Bared it All: Health & Fitness: glamour.com

Those are some gorgeous women
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