Is Feminism Still Relevant?

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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

I'd love to hear what some of you consider a funny joke

Rick Perry

[Jive Turkey]

That offends residents of Texas and Republicans. I demand an apology and that Diemen erase your post

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Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

That offends residents of Texas and Republicans. I demand an apology and that Diemen erase your post

The number of Texans who still like Rick Perry is falling. Soon it will be fewer than the number of followers of that guy in Australia who thinks that he's Jesus.

[cobl04]

As a huge fan of comedy, I'm with Jive on this one. Tracy Morgan caused a big stir over here with his show at MICF, which was labelled sexist and misogynistic. I didn't see it, but I wasn't offended by what he was saying on stage, I just don't think he's funny.

But then some people started calling for people to boycott the show, protest and so on. Being offended doesn't entitle you to anything.

[Jive Turkey]

Originally Posted by jeevey

I've done this before. I went into a restaurant next to a nail salon. You could smell the salon chemicals in with all the food smells, and I said out loud to my dad and his wife, "Jeez, it smells like cancer in here." Then the uncomfortable silence reminded me that her first husband died of brain cancer. She knew what cancer smells like, and I didn't, and I had just reminded her of the shittiest experience of her life in a totally trivializing way.

Lets dig into this anecdote a little further. When you said "Jeez, it smells like cancer in here", that wasn't a joke in the common sense of the term. It was a comment on the air quality in the salon. You were implying the air was filled with carcinogenic chemicals. It was an exaggeration, sure, but it was a legitimate concern and certainly wasn't a joke. Mentioning cancer reminded your step mom of a tragic time in her life. You're not even talking about a tasteless joke; you're talking about the mere mention of the word. So by your logic here, we shouldn't even talk about cancer because anyone affected by it might be reminded of their loss.
What you did was put your foot in your mouth. Of course we want to be tactful around people we know who might not want to be reminded of certain events. But scrubbing media and entertainment of any and all mention of those things is a completely unreasonable and ridiculous request.
I've had friends and family die from cancer. If I were in your shoes, could I have gotten away with the comment because I've "smelled cancer"? (which isn't a thing)

[Jive Turkey]

Originally Posted by cobl04

But then some people started calling for people to boycott the show, protest and so on. Being offended doesn't entitle you to anything.

I just can't wrap my head around how egotistical these people are. Being offended about something is a personal issue; it's not something to push onto anyone else. The act of being offended in itself says much more about the offendee than the offender. What is it about something another person says that triggers a response inside you and causes you to get upset? It's about insecurity. They're worried about what other people think about them. Try being unoffendable and secure. Your life will be much better

[deep]

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

I'd love to hear what some of you consider a funny joke

Woman asks "what's your sign ?"
Man answers "cancer"
Woman sobbing "my husband died form brain cancer"

[cobl04]

Hahahahaha.

Aren't there other things we should be offended by anyway? Like how abortion law is largely discussed and presided over by men? Or that homosexuals are still discriminated against?

[Jive Turkey]

Originally Posted by deep

Woman asks "what's your sign ?"
Man answers "cancer"
Woman sobbing "my husband died form brain cancer"

hahahahahahaha

[Kieran McConville]

Royal family, Christmas day. Game of charades.

[jeevey]

All I'm saying is that human behavior should be guided by kindness and respect. If you can create a rape joke that isn't trivializing or demeaning, than go for it.

[Jive Turkey]

Most jokes are trivializing and demeaning. Do you think rape jokes should be treated differently?

[Kieran McConville]

All of this side tangent is leaving aside that a lot of humour does not explicity take the form of 'jokes'. Sometimes it's a certain vibe, a certain look, a certain angle.

'Jokes' of the 'so an irishman a frenchman and satan walk into a bar' variety often bore the pants off me.

[The Sad Punk]

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

There should be nothing wrong with this. Had you said "man my team got absolutely murdered last night!", nobody would bat an eye

Yes, because there isn't a disgustingly high probability that the person you're saying it to may have been murdered before.

[jeevey]

Originally Posted by The Sad Punk

Yes, because there isn't a disgustingly high probability that the person you're saying it to may have been murdered before.

Thank you.

[Jive Turkey]

Originally Posted by The Sad Punk

Yes, because there isn't a disgustingly high probability that the person you're saying it to may have been murdered before.

So a mother who's child has been murdered deserves less respect than a rape victim?

[jeevey]

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

Most jokes are trivializing and demeaning. Do you think rape jokes should be treated differently?

I think people should be treated differently.

I can tell that we have very different worldviews here, because every one of our disagreements is essentially the same one. I think people should be treated with kindness and respect, even in humor. You think they should be treated with... I can't really tell. Whatever you enjoy at the time?

[Jive Turkey]

Originally Posted by jeevey

Thank you.

Think about it for longer than 5 seconds before marking that one down in your 'win' column

[Jive Turkey]

Originally Posted by jeevey

I think people should be treated differently.

I can tell that we have very different worldviews here, because every one of our disagreements is essentially the same one. I think people should make an effort to act with kindness and respect, even in humor. You think they should be treated with... I can't really tell. Whatever you enjoy at the time?

You know, there's the option to not get offended instead of pushing your views on everyone else. My point is far more people oriented than yours. Nobody deserves a disproportionate amount of respect. You aren't a special person with special privileges

[jeevey]

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

You know, there's the option to not get offended instead of pushing your views on everyone else. My point is far more people oriented than yours. Nobody deserves a disproportionate amount of respect. You aren't a special person with special privileges

Again with the difference. Every person deserves respect.