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Old 06-23-2014, 03:09 PM   #41
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No, seriously?

By any objective measure, the man is evil and at a minimum entirely amoral.
And I absolutely agree, he is absolutely amoral. I was hoping what I meant would get across, I find the man almost super-villain evil, he's like a real life Lex Luthor. But, he's not gunning people down (mostly), nor committing genocide, silencing large groups of people, etc. So I hesitate to throw the label evil on him, or basically refer to him as the most evil man alive, when there are people in the world who are just evil, absolutely, to the core.
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But, he's not gunning people down (mostly), nor committing genocide, silencing large groups of people, etc.
he did that and much more
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you realize that you're comparing a single (legendarily disastrous) battle to a war and 8 years of occupation?
Acknowledging that makes the disparity between the two even greater. Most wars of 8 years would make a single battle seem tiny in cost.
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So you agree that it's an impossible comparison.
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the most hated man in FYM?

what 10 posters in here think is not that relevant to me.

Cheney is a despicable scumbag,
immoral, amoral seems an understatement. He is lower than Osama bin Laden.
Say you discovered you were eating in the same restaurant as Cheney one night. What would you do?
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Say you discovered you were eating in the same restaurant as Cheney one night. What would you do?

What's on the menu?
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So you agree that it's an impossible comparison.
It should be, but given that the cost are reversed, its not.
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It should be, but given that the cost are reversed, its not.


It is a bad comparison.
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he did that and much more
Exactly.

The buck stops somewhere.
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When did Dick Cheney commit genocide?
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Is genocide the only evil in the world?
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Cheney is absolutely one of the worst human beings on earth and the primary source of evil in the otherwise incompetent Bush administration. Whether or not he's genocidal is simply fussing over one of many applicable negative labels for the man.

Rand Paul ignoring party lines and attacking Cheney made my day.
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Is genocide the only evil in the world?
Hey, let's not pretend for one second that's what I said, OK? I'm sticking to my guns on this one, Cheney's definitely not the most evil man alive. Doesn't mean he's not a horrible, horrible human being. I just find it a little strange to see him be the most hated person in this forum, because there are people out there responsible for a lot more. That was my point, and I'm pretty sure that was clear from the beginning, so I'm not sure why arguing over semantics/words was necessary. I'm not about to make a list of evil people/evils, myself. Suffice it to say this much: I hate the guy.
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Rest assured, it's not just Interference:
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Like I'm not aware, I'm pretty sure I just said that about five different times.
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Hey, let's not pretend for one second that's what I said, OK? I'm sticking to my guns on this one, Cheney's definitely not the most evil man alive. Doesn't mean he's not a horrible, horrible human being. I just find it a little strange to see him be the most hated person in this forum, because there are people out there responsible for a lot more.

Speaking of putting words in people's mouth, who are all these people on this forum claiming he is the most hated person alive? I'm sorry but I read that as kind of a tongue in cheek rhetorical question from digitize.
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Like I'm not aware, I'm pretty sure I just said that about five different times.
Well, you edited out the part that specifically mentioned FYM as being hyperbolic so I guess I'll just drop it.
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Speaking of putting words in people's mouth, who are all these people on this forum claiming he is the most hated person alive? I'm sorry but I read that as kind of a tongue in cheek rhetorical question from digitize.
Just never mind, it's not worth it. Someone said he's the most hated person on FYM, I find that incredible. That was it. It then went from there, as it tends to do in this forum. I really have nothing else to say on the topic, I've agreed with everything that's been said, wasn't looking for an argument.

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Well, you edited out the part that specifically mentioned FYM as being hyperbolic so I guess I'll just drop it.
Because I realized I was being hyperbolic, but it didn't appear to have much to do with your post.

So it is abundantly clear to everyone: Dick Chaney is a horrible, horrible man. One of the worst things to happen to this country's government and to political relationships the world over.
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At least no one has compared him to Hitler yet. That's when the really thoughtful discourse begins.
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