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Old 06-30-2014, 06:00 PM   #21
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I have seen some random comments saying that it is, but yeah, I'm in the same boat you are.

I know someone who had been working for a faith-based organization - their insurance did not cover contraception or Viagra, so at least there was consistency.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:01 PM   #22
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Right, I 100% don't think Viagra should be covered, but if it is, then clearly anything remotely medical related is covered...and that should include the morning after pill.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:02 PM   #23
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This is a dangerous decision. Corporations now have faith?
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The court didn't actually resolve whether a for-profit corporation can "exercise religion." They basically skirted around the issue and suggested it cannot be rationally analyzed. So it's hard to tell what the long-term impact of this case will be.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:04 PM   #24
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Wellll, I don't know that it shouldn't be covered. I mean, erectile dysfunction is a medical condition. Not all EDs can be treated with a little blue pill, though, and I don't know the stats regarding how Viagra is prescribed/used. (Although apparently it's a hot black-market item. The things you learn in meetings with your medical carrier! The prescription usage stuff is always the most fascinating to me.)

We only just started covering other ED-related procedures Rx was never an issue, as far as I know. There are some drugs at a certain level that may not be covered (because of FDA approval issues or something), or have a much higher copay for one reason or another, but as far as I know, Viagra was always a covered drug for our plans.

But if it starts getting into morals ("we won't cover BC because only slutty sexing sluts take it, but married men need their Viagra, because they're obviously the only ones who take it!" ... I hyperbolize, but still.), then that's insane.
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Sorry, I don't understand what you're saying here?
I'm saying that, if I'm reading the ruling right, it's patently hypocritical to support cutting off "all four methods of contraception" with the justification of morality because condoms themselves prevent abortion.

That's why I read this as being a cheapskate move; if it's a morality issue, the decision is self-defeating.

This post is, again, irrelevant if I read the ruling wrong. I'm getting a lot of mixed signals as to what this pertains to.
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real Americans support the Sloppy Hobby decision
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:06 PM   #27
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I'm saying that, if I'm reading the ruling right, it's patently hypocritical to support cutting off "all four methods of contraception" with the justification of morality because condoms themselves prevent abortion.
Gotcha, thanks.
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Old 06-30-2014, 06:07 PM   #28
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A very good point is that you can use many (not all) brands of the combination birth control pill as a morning after pill, in specific high dosages. For example, you'd take 4 pills as a first dose and then another 4 or 6 or whatever 12-24 hours later. So any woman with the "right" birth control pill prescription already has a default baby-killin' pill right at home.

And the ban on IUDs is also just silly.
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The real truth about the family that owns Hobby Lobby business that claim they should not have to go against their core religious beliefs and pay for a practice and choice that is against their religious beliefs is that they are really motivated by politics and not religion.


Hobby Lobby 401(k) invests in birth control makers
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Yeah, what makes a IUD any different than the pill?
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The real truth about the family that owns Hobby Lobby business that claim they should not have to go against their core religious beliefs and pay for a practice and choice that is against their religious beliefs is that they are really motivated by politics and not religion.


Hobby Lobby 401(k) invests in birth control makers
Did they follow-up on that story with any press release?

I'd find that interesting to read.

Though, I will say, I never knew what I was investing in with my 401K...but I would think the head of a company would.
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Old white men are really shitty.
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Old white men are really shitty.

they'd be less shitty if they could get pregnant.
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Conservatives believe everybody should use the same birth control they use.




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You know what really bugs the shit out of me? This girl on Facebook who actually took a picture of the package she received today from Hobby Lobby saying it's the perfect way to celebrate Hobby Lobby's victory of Religious Freedom.

I seriously want to punch her in the uterus.

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Wow.
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Wow.
Right? It's not the first time she's posted complete bs like that too.

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I was talking about you.
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I was talking about you.
Oh. I'm just a violent person. I'm sure you can gather that by my Facebook profile.

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