Harvard Professor Looking for Neanderthal Surrogate

[u2popmofo]

I think that the flying spaghetti monster has a sick sense of humo(u)r.

[Jive Turkey]

and when I die, I expect to find him lol-ing

[Pearl]

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

I think Japanese researchers are still working on the wooly mammoth as far as I know

I think researchers shouldn't be concentrating on bringing back extinct animals and instead focus on saving soon-to-be extinct animals.

[Jive Turkey]

It's a completely different field; it's not like resources are being taken from one to benefit another. There's room for both. And the information they gain from bringing back an extinct animal will extend far beyond just bringing back extinct animals

[Pearl]

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

It's a completely different field; it's not like resources are being taken from one to benefit another. There's room for both. And the information they gain from bringing back an extinct animal will extend far beyond just bringing back extinct animals

I would just think saving endangered species would be more important.

Besides, where would the woolly mammoth be put if brought back? Climate change is a problem, so I wouldn't think the Arctic would be a good place if the polar bears are having problems.

[Jive Turkey]

Originally Posted by Pearl

I would just think saving endangered species would be more important.

Besides, where would the woolly mammoth be put if brought back? Climate change is a problem, so I wouldn't think the Arctic would be a good place if the polar bears are having problems.

Protecting endangered species is definitely important; I'm with you 100% there. I'm just saying if these guys weren't trying to... I don't even know what they call it. Resurrect? the mammoth, they wouldn't be working on saving endangered species anyway. They're geneticists.

I doubt they'd ever consider releasing any of these animals back into the wild though. You're right that the habitats have moved on in the past 10000 years. I assume they're intending to do it on a much smaller scale. Maybe a few dozen animals, if that many, in zoos, etc.


oh, I see now why you made that connection. So ya, bring them back, but not into the wild, so they wouldn't affect any modern species. that would be incredibly irresponsible

[Pearl]

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

oh, I see now why you made that connection. So ya, bring them back, but not into the wild, so they wouldn't affect any modern species. that would be incredibly irresponsible

Actually, I didn't mean that at all.

I mentioned the polar bears because they are having problems with climate change, and since they are, how would the woolly mammoth survive the Arctic if not all is well there? I mean, will it be cold enough for them or will the fauna be enough for them?

I can see why a geneticist and a biologist would want to study an extinct animal if it fascinates them so much. I just don't see how it would beneficial for the animal or the world altogether.

[Vincent Vega]

Originally Posted by Pearl

I would just think saving endangered species would be more important.

Besides, where would the woolly mammoth be put if brought back? Climate change is a problem, so I wouldn't think the Arctic would be a good place if the polar bears are having problems.

That's not so much the scientists' call, as rather the call for us to change how we live and how we afford the ways we live. Just take fishing: scientists say, this amount of fish you can fish without depleting the resource, the industry say "We need to fish more" and the governments take a figure somewhere in between.

But that's a little off-topic.

The Spiegel laid down how this all came about. They interview Professor Church, in which he described the process of how to theoretically clone a new neanderthal baby. At the end he said, "And then we would need an adventurous woman as surrogate mother." The day after the magazine was published (in German) the Spiegel Online put a summary of the interview on its website. No one cared. A week later, that article was published in English on the international version of Spiegel Online. That article clearly stated again how the Professor laid out the theoretical path towards a Neanderthal baby. This time, the story was picked up the Daily Mail, that misconstrued the whole thing into the mad scientist looks for Neanderthal surrogate story.

But anyway, no one is actually looking for a woman to do this adventure, but apparently Prof. Church already received some applications.

[Jive Turkey]

Originally Posted by Pearl

Actually, I didn't mean that at all.

I mentioned the polar bears because they are having problems with climate change, and since they are, how would the woolly mammoth survive the Arctic if not all is well there? I mean, will it be cold enough for them or will the fauna be enough for them?

I can see why a geneticist and a biologist would want to study an extinct animal if it fascinates them so much. I just don't see how it would beneficial for the animal or the world altogether.

The woolly mammoth wouldn't need to survive the arctic because they would never release them there or anywhere. They'd be in limited numbers and confined to habitats in zoos, labs, etc. When they talk of resurrecting species, particularly those so long extinct, the aim is never to get them back into the wild. Even if the climate was suitable, it would cause havoc on the ecosystems.

[Jive Turkey]

Originally Posted by Vincent Vega

That's not so much the scientists' call, as rather the call for us to change how we live and how we afford the ways we live. Just take fishing: scientists say, this amount of fish you can fish without depleting the resource, the industry say "We need to fish more" and the governments take a figure somewhere in between.

But that's a little off-topic.

The Spiegel laid down how this all came about. They interview Professor Church, in which he described the process of how to theoretically clone a new neanderthal baby. At the end he said, "And then we would need an adventurous woman as surrogate mother." The day after the magazine was published (in German) the Spiegel Online put a summary of the interview on its website. No one cared. A week later, that article was published in English on the international version of Spiegel Online. That article clearly stated again how the Professor laid out the theoretical path towards a Neanderthal baby. This time, the story was picked up the Daily Mail, that misconstrued the whole thing into the mad scientist looks for Neanderthal surrogate story.

But anyway, no one is actually looking for a woman to do this adventure, but apparently Prof. Church already received some applications.

Well if they just wrote the story in English to begin with, we wouldn't be having this problem

 

I keed

[Jive Turkey]

Originally Posted by Vincent Vega

That's not so much the scientists' call, as rather the call for us to change how we live and how we afford the ways we live. Just take fishing: scientists say, this amount of fish you can fish without depleting the resource, the industry say "We need to fish more" and the governments take a figure somewhere in between.

And this. It's disgusting how much fish we haul out of the ocean. It's like a willful ignorance because we can't see down more than a few feet. And ultimately, it just leads to the fisheries running themselves out of business. Newfoundland screwed themselves over that very way

[Vincent Vega]

Originally Posted by Jive Turkey

Well if they just wrote the story in English to begin with, we wouldn't be having this problem

* SPOILER *

Well that's merely because we screwed up a couple decades ago, otherwise you'd all have read the text without any translation whatsoever.

[Jive Turkey]

Originally Posted by Vincent Vega

Well that's merely because we screwed up a couple decades ago, otherwise you'd all have read the text without any translation whatsoever.

hahahahaha well played