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Old 04-21-2016, 12:25 AM   #41
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I agree to a certain point, but "not worth a lot", really? How many currency changes have been made in your or your parents lifetime? It's a huge symbolic change.


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You're not understanding what I'm saying. I'm saying symbolism isn't worth a whole lot. I think it's stupid that Jackson is on the $20 because he sucks and all, but like, he's been dead for a pretty long time. I don't really care. I'm not one for buying into symbolism like it should be an outrage.
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Harriet Tubman New Face of the $20

In case y'all were wondering how Breitbart commenters are reacting to this news: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/45863_Treasury_Announces_Harriet_Tubman_on_$20_Bill_Breitbart_Commenters_Erupt_in_Racism


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In case y'all were wondering how Breitbart commenters are reacting to this news: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/45863_Treasury_Announces_Harriet_Tubman_on_$20_Bill_Breitbart_Commenters_Erupt_in_Racism
White genocide, everyone.

White genocide.

Fucking hell.
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You're not understanding what I'm saying. I'm saying symbolism isn't worth a whole lot. I think it's stupid that Jackson is on the $20 because he sucks and all, but like, he's been dead for a pretty long time. I don't really care. I'm not one for buying into symbolism like it should be an outrage.

Understood. But I think you undervalue the power of symbolism.


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I think that's an individual value. I'm not disagreeing that people value it. Look at this thread. People seem outraged...

I just don't start to value it unless it has some physical meaning. For example, if the government was about to spend money on a memorial, then yeah, that would anger me. But as far as I'm concerned, The action here was forward. So what if it's not perfect. It's not like they just put Jackson on the $20. They could've announced nothing at all, and everyone would be going about their daily lives using their Andrew Jackson money with no complaint.
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I think that's an individual value. I'm not disagreeing that people value it. Look at this thread. People seem outraged...

I just don't start to value it unless it has some physical meaning. For example, if the government was about to spend money on a memorial, then yeah, that would anger me. But as far as I'm concerned, The action here was forward. So what if it's not perfect. It's not like they just put Jackson on the $20. They could've announced nothing at all, and everyone would be going about their daily lives using their Andrew Jackson money with no complaint.

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I'm pretty sure Ashley's been complaining about Andrew Jackson being on the $20 note for quite some time.

In fact, I think it was her who first drew my attention to how utterly disgusting a person he was.
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I'm just by and large frustrated because I don't feel like we've done enough as a country, at all, to address the situation with Native Americans..
When Elizabeth Warren becomes president she'll rectify it to honor her fabricated heritage.
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When Elizabeth Warren becomes president she'll rectify it to honor her fabricated heritage.

Haven't you heard? Warren's not running. Its some black lady instead.
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Haven't you heard? Warren's not running. Its some black lady instead.
I'm thinking 2020 when the Dems have to find a new hope to defeat incumbent Donald Trump
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I'm thinking 2020 when the Dems have to find a new hope to defeat incumbent Donald Trump

There will be no such thing as an "incumbent" if/when Mein Drumpf is elected.

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There will be no such thing as an "incumbent" if/when Mein Drumpf is elected.

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Right, cause he'll outlaw elections and make us a dic(k)tatorship.

When he dies, hopefully we get Ivanka as successor and not Don.
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Right, cause he'll outlaw elections and make us a dic(k)tatorship.



When he dies, hopefully we get Ivanka as successor and not Don.

Don can't be his successor. He didn't vote for him.

Penis-tato-chips.

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I thought it was Ivanka who couldn't vote for him?
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I'm pretty sure Ashley's been complaining about Andrew Jackson being on the $20 note for quite some time.

In fact, I think it was her who first drew my attention to how utterly disgusting a person he was.
Yep. For years. I don't think I actively think about it on a daily basis, or every time I have twenty dollar bills on me. But, yeah, on a fairly regular basis, I'll see his presidential portrait on the bill, or just remember he's on it at all and go into a bit of a seething rage. Mainly because I don't think there will ever be honest dialogue about the fact that his memory shouldn't be honored. From the Treasury department, I mean.

But maybe all of this is some loooooong planned out revenge. Putting him on regulated currency in the first place, now on the reverse side to a former slave. Perhaps all of this has been planned from the start and there's some third great revenge waiting in the wings. I can't think of any funny possibility, so you'll have to come up with one on your own.

So, yeah. Symbolism does mean something to me. That bill represents, in a nutshell, for me, all of the feigned ignorance on the part of our government towards the atrocities committed against Native Americans. Hiding them away in the West and hoping one day people forget, because look, they get casinos! Isn't sufficient. A symbolic move might not do anything, but for at least one person out there, it'd make me feel relief.
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Harriet Tubman is, ya know, just fantastic. Just a great Tubman. Yuuuge Tubman. But we should keep Andrew Jackson on the $20. Maybe we can create a new denomination for Tubman. Maybe the $2 dollar bill. Or perhaps a 3/5ths of a dollar bill. That would be yuuuge.

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I suppose it's right that the $3 bill features a gay icon.
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