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Glad to see the call for a new tone in Washington really materializing.... Though is this really surprising to anyone?

Steve Cohen Nazi Propaganda | Healthcare Repeal | Holocaust | Mediaite


"They say it’s a government takeover of health care, a big lie just like Goebbels. You say it enough, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie, you repeat the lie and eventually, people believe it. Like blood libel. That’s the same kind of thing the Germans said enough about the Jews and the people believed it - and you had the Holocaust." - Rep. Steve Cohen (D)

I hereby refudiate these comments by Cohen (lest I later be accused of not being quick to condemn this kind of crap when it comes from left).



I hate to break it to his wife but Jon Stewart is my husband

Wait, I thought you were with Bruce. . . :wink:
 
(AP) SANTA BARBARA, Calif. — America is on a "road to ruin" because of misguided policies in Washington and needs to get back in step with the values of Ronald Reagan, Sarah Palin said at an event honoring the former president's legacy.

The 2008 Republican vice presidential nominee delivered a stinging critique of Washington during her speech Friday, part of the national celebration marking the centennial of Reagan's birth on Feb. 6.

Revisiting themes familiar from her 2008 campaign, she said the nation was being shackled by high debt and taxes, dense government regulation and rising spending, often for programs that don't work. She said a rush toward green energy was overlooking the nation's oil and natural gas reserves, a choice that will cost jobs and drive up pump prices.

She blamed Washington leaders – an apparent reference to the Obama administration – for doing "everything in their power to stymie responsible domestic drilling."

"This is dangerous. This is insane," she said. "This is not the road to national greatness, it is the road to ruin."

She alluded to President Barack Obama's State of the Union address last month, saying it amounted to a statement that "the era of big government is here to stay."

Palin was asked to talk about Reagan's 1964 speech, "A Time for Choosing," which he gave on behalf of then-Republican presidential candidate Barry Goldwater. In it, he talks at length about the dangers of high taxes and encroaching big government, as well as the necessity of strong national security.

She said the stark choices the nation faces are not unlike those Reagan talked of in the 1960s, only the economy of today is worse, from home foreclosures to high unemployment.

She said Reagan saw the danger of President Lyndon Johnson's Great Society programs, and "he refused to sit down and be silent as our liberties were eroded by an out of control, centralized government that overtaxed and overreached in utter disregard of constitutional limits."

"We could choose one direction or the other, socialism or freedom and free markets," Palin said.

Palin received a roaring ovation, but Reagan's son told The Associated Press in an interview that he doesn't see anything in common between his dad and the former Alaska governor, who was invited to speak by the event's sponsor, the conservative Young America's Foundation.

"Sarah Palin is a soap opera, basically. She's doing mostly what she does to make money and keep her name in the news," Ron Reagan says.

"She is not a serious candidate for president and never has been," said Reagan, a political independent whose politics lean left.

But former Reagan speechwriter Kenneth Khachigian praised the choice of Palin to discuss Reagan's legacy.

Palin was a teenager when Reagan took office in 1981 and like many young people "their lives and philosophy and political fortunes were shaped by the Reagan era," Khachigian says. "She can reflect on that as well as anyone could."

Palin was introduced to the nation at the Republican National Convention in 2008, and her folksy, wisecracking style sometimes earned her comparisons to Reagan, who was known for his wit and appeal beyond the traditional Republican base, especially with blue-collar Democrats. She frequently referred to Reagan on the campaign trail, and in her debate with Vice President Joe Biden reprised Reagan's famous rejoinder from his 1980 debate with Jimmy Carter, "There you go again."

If she is making in any preparations to run for the presidency in 2012, she made no mention of it in her remarks.

Palin, who now is closely aligned with the tea party movement, has become for some a polarizing political figure.

Tea partiers rail against soaring public debt and sprawling government programs like Social Security and Medicare. But public debt roughly tripled on Reagan's watch and he did not attempt to dismantle Social Security or Medicare during his term, says Reagan biographer Lou Cannon.

"He was no tea partier," Cannon says.

The Young America's Foundation was founded in the 1960s to promote conservative ideas on college campuses, and it purchased Reagan's former ranch in 1998. The foundation is not connected with the Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley.
 
I think this strange, obsessive love-in re: Reagan on the right is really creepy. It's like they've beatified him post-death and now he stands for everything that was ever right with Amurka. Nevermind his financial deregulation, nevermind that he should bear the brunt of the governmental responsibility for the utter moral failure that he was on AIDS in the 80s and so on.

It also makes me laugh that the American Right is now pretty much equivalent to the Russians building that mausoleum for Lenin and worshipping his dead body.
 
I think this strange, obsessive love-in re: Reagan on the right is really creepy. It's like they've beatified him post-death and now he stands for everything that was ever right with Amurka. Nevermind his financial deregulation, nevermind that he should bear the brunt of the governmental responsibility for the utter moral failure that he was on AIDS in the 80s and so on.

It also makes me laugh that the American Right is now pretty much equivalent to the Russians building that mausoleum for Lenin and worshipping his dead body.


That wasn't very nice :huh:
 
seems to me that the deification of Reagan goes hand in hand with the deification of "the Founders" and the Constitution as second only in importance to The Bible.


jesus_constitution.jpg



to me, this is all evidence of cultural panic and fear of national decline. at it's core, it's just insecurity.
 
That picture's great because the only people on Jesus' side are founders, WWII soldiers, and Ronald Reagan. Literally. The only person from the last 50 years is Reagan.

This country depresses me.
 
I think this strange, obsessive love-in re: Reagan on the right is really creepy. It's like they've beatified him post-death and now he stands for everything that was ever right with Amurka. Nevermind his financial deregulation, nevermind that he should bear the brunt of the governmental responsibility for the utter moral failure that he was on AIDS in the 80s and so on.

It also makes me laugh that the American Right is now pretty much equivalent to the Russians building that mausoleum for Lenin and worshipping his dead body.

Yeah, Reagan and Lenin are the same. :|

What's your issue? Is your beef with the general fact that people can love a president so much? Or is it the fact that it's a president you hate? Because if it's the former, you need to realize that the right's adoration of Reagan kind of pales in comparison to the left's obsession with FDR and Kennedy(s).
 
The darker side of the Reagan affinity seems to stem from social conservatives who hold up the 1950s as some kind of ideal America, steeped in nostalgia. Blacks and women might have an issue with that, though.

Carter made the mistake of telling people what they didn't want to hear, and that's why Reagan rode in on that black and white horse with his cowboy hat on and replaced him. With some history behind us, that Crisis of Confidence speech aims right at the problems we're experiencing in 2010 America. Kinda sad we put off dealing with any of it for 30 years.
 
The darker side of the Reagan affinity seems to stem from social conservatives who hold up the 1950s as some kind of ideal America, steeped in nostalgia. Blacks and women might have an issue with that, though.



not to mention the olds of today -- how would they like to be back in the 1950s and dying alone and broke with no heat and Medicare?

the Great Society made enormous strides in ending the aggregate amount of suffering in this country. that wasn't there in the 1950s.
 
Yeah, Reagan and Lenin are the same. :|

Way to miss the point.

What's your issue? Is your beef with the general fact that people can love a president so much? Or is it the fact that it's a president you hate?

I think it's pretty clear that the issue is the whitewashing of Reagan's presidency to be this paragon of contemporary conservative values. Reagan's record certainly wouldn't align very favorably with current Tea Party values, yet they raise him up as The Ultimate Conservative.™
 
At the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, former President Bill Clinton said that Rep. Michele Bachmann’s assertion that the United States has the best health care system in the world is not true and that the new crop of Republicans in Congress are living “in a parallel universe divorced from reality with no facts.” Clinton was responding to comments Bachmann made during her Tea Party response to President Obama’s State of the Union address. ... Clinton continued, “You can get the best health care in the world in America if you are Bill Clinton, or David Gergen or Turki Faisal, but that’s not the same thing as having the best system that works for everybody.”

Has a truer statement been made lately?
 
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A 'Glee' for Glenn Beck? Hallelujah! No, really. That's the name.

Marc Cherry, writer for "The Golden Girls," and the creator of "Desperate Housewives," is of a rare breed: a gay Republican. And now, he's trying to bridge the gap between his two identities -- kind of. Cherry's new show, an ABC drama set in the heartland, is aiming to bring the theatrics of 'Glee' to the tea party crowd.

Called "Hallelujah," the show is about a small town and its mysterious savior -- it was inspired by the 1947 Cary Grant film, "The Bishop's Wife." In addition to the miracles of kindness performed, there will be plenty of singing -- from the pews.

There will be a "generous helping of gospel music," Cherry told TVGuide.com. "I'm calling it 'Glee' for conservative Republicans."




Bristol Palin said recently that she might be taking the path of her mother, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, by seeking political office at some point.

During an interview with E! Online, the former "Dancing With the Stars" runner-up and possible future author said that she would "probably" run for office some day, but that the day would be "further down the road."

Asked what would drive her to enter politics, Palin gave a response that sounded similar to one that her mother had given before.

"If I saw something that needed to be changed, then I would step up to the plate and do something about it," Palin answered.

While Bristol waits to mount a potential political bid of her own, she told E! News that she remains firmly in support of her mom's potential quest for higher office.

"I think she would be a wonderful president, and I still think that she should run," Palin said. "She's just so common-sense conservative, just, 'Here's what we've gotta do and this is how we're gonna do it,' and she brings a whole 'nother aspect to politics because she's a mom, because she runs a household, and I just think she's really smart."

For more on the Palin interview, check out E! Online.
 
and she brings a whole 'nother aspect to politics because she's a mom, because she runs a household, and I just think she's really smart."


wow. she runs a household. surely that's just like running a country. all it takes is some elbow-grease and good old fashioned gumption, and there ain't nothing we can't tackle together. :up:
 
I really HATE "whole nother"..Anyway... everyone can get a book deal these days. Snooki "wrote" a book. 304 pages?

gawker.com

Bristol Palin Memoir Due This Summer Bristol Palin has had a long and at times difficult career in show business. It's about time she settled down and wrote her glorious memoirs. And that's exactly what she's doing, from that house she bought in Arizona.

An early listing has been flagged on Amazon for "Untitled Bristol Palin Memoir," by Bristol Palin. The 304-page bildungsroman is set to be released in June under William Morrow & Co., an imprint of Harper Collins, which publishes Sarah Palin's silly books.

Here's an (unofficial) preview of the book's structure:

Part One: I was born.

Part Two: I got pregnant.

Part Three: I went dancing on teevee.

Part Four: ??

The bildungsroman (German pronunciation: [ˈbɪldʊŋs.ʁoˌmaːn]; German: "formation novel") is a genre of the novel which focuses on the psychological and moral growth of the protagonist from youth to adulthood.[1] Change is thus extremely important.[2] The genre is further characterized by a number of formal, topical and thematic features.[3] The term coming-of-age novel is sometimes used interchangeably with bildungsroman, but its use is usually wider and less technical. :D
 
"She's just so common-sense conservative, just, 'Here's what we've gotta do and this is how we're gonna do it,' and she brings a whole 'nother aspect to politics because she's a mom, because she runs a household, and I just think she's really smart."

$5 says she'd never describe Hillary Clinton in that way.
 
I probably sound more like that guy than I'd like to admit. Although I can consciously "turn it off" when I think about it, as I sort of have to in my profession.
 
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A 'Glee' for Glenn Beck? Hallelujah! No, really. That's the name.


It could be a lot of fun

Cherry and Wind hope to begin shooting by early April, in time for ABC to consider the series for a spot on its 2011-12 lineup. Here are Hallelujah's central characters, which Cherry and Wind will soon be looking to cast with both familiar and fresh faces.

Rye Turner, the church-going diner owner who starts to become aware of some of the corruption pervading his town.

Ruth Turner, Rye's good, although bitter, wife, who has been hardened by years of heartache and tragedy.

Willow, Rye and Ruth's beautiful, hard-working daughter.

Matthew, Rye and Ruth's 8-year-old handicapped son who was left brain-damaged in an accident and hasn't spoken a word since.

Del Roman, the richest man in town, with a very young wife he can't control, who starts engaging in questionable behavior.

Vita, Del's sexy young wife, who is also a troublemaker.

Gideon, Del's delinquent teenage son, who has just been booted from college and forms a fondness for Willow.

Miss Dulcie, the 75-year-old blind black woman who raised Del and is keenly aware of what's going on in Hallelujah.

Jared, a mysterious stranger who drifts in to town. He possesses a special quality but is covering up a dark past.
 
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A 'Glee' for Glenn Beck? Hallelujah! No, really. That's the name.

Marc Cherry, writer for "The Golden Girls," and the creator of "Desperate Housewives," is of a rare breed: a gay Republican. And now, he's trying to bridge the gap between his two identities -- kind of. Cherry's new show, an ABC drama set in the heartland, is aiming to bring the theatrics of 'Glee' to the tea party crowd.

Called "Hallelujah," the show is about a small town and its mysterious savior -- it was inspired by the 1947 Cary Grant film, "The Bishop's Wife." In addition to the miracles of kindness performed, there will be plenty of singing -- from the pews.

There will be a "generous helping of gospel music," Cherry told TVGuide.com. "I'm calling it 'Glee' for conservative Republicans."

Sounds like an intriguing idea. Though I think he'd be surprised at how many non-conservative Republicans might check out such a show.

Bristol Palin said recently that she might be taking the path of her mother, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, by seeking political office at some point.

*Cries*

No. Please, please, dear sweet God, NO.

I really HATE "whole nother"..Anyway... everyone can get a book deal these days. Snooki "wrote" a book. 304 pages?

gawker.com

Bristol Palin Memoir Due This Summer Bristol Palin has had a long and at times difficult career in show business. It's about time she settled down and wrote her glorious memoirs. And that's exactly what she's doing, from that house she bought in Arizona.

Like I said before, if they can put books out, there's hope for me yet :D.

Angela
 
Bristol Palin said recently that she might be taking the path of her mother, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, by seeking political office at some point.

...

For more on the Palin interview, check out E! Online.

WHY won't the media just LEAVE the Palin children ALONE already?

:sad:
 
Bristol Palin said recently that she might be taking the path of her mother, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, by seeking political office at some point.

During an interview with E! Online, the former "Dancing With the Stars" runner-up and possible future author said that she would "probably" run for office some day, but that the day would be "further down the road."
:cute: maybe by then she'll learn how to vote.
 
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