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Old 03-11-2021, 07:34 PM   #521
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Please, please let it all go as planned. That would be an incredible accomplishment.
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Old 03-11-2021, 10:30 PM   #522
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Biden is going to direct states to open up vaccine availability to all adults by May 1st, in his speech tonight.
Works for me . Let's do it.
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Old 03-12-2021, 08:07 AM   #523
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i have no idea what to make of this...

https://www.inverse.com/mind-body/be...ment-discovery
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Old 03-12-2021, 08:15 AM   #524
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i have no idea what to make of this...
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Old 03-12-2021, 08:51 AM   #525
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What's great fucking movie
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Old 03-12-2021, 09:06 AM   #526
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i have no idea what to make of this...

https://www.inverse.com/mind-body/be...ment-discovery
It's not altogether surprising because we see these kinds of unexpected relationships/outcomes with other diseases too.

For example, patients with Alzheimer's have significantly lower rates of cancer, even though the vast majority of them are in the high risk group (i.e. elderly). We still don't really know why that is the case - is it something intrinsic to Alzheimer's, is it something connected to the medications/treatment, or maybe a combination of both.
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Old 03-12-2021, 09:34 AM   #527
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There was a segment on 60 Minutes this past Sunday about using fluvoxamine to treat covid.
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Old 03-12-2021, 01:40 PM   #528
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Biden is going to direct states to open up vaccine availability to all adults by May 1st, in his speech tonight.
meanwhile, in toronto, the website for 80+ year olds to book an appointment for their first dose launches on monday.

i feel like i'll probably be lucky if i'm vaccinated by labour day.
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Old 03-12-2021, 02:14 PM   #529
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meanwhile, in toronto, the website for 80+ year olds to book an appointment for their first dose launches on monday.

i feel like i'll probably be lucky if i'm vaccinated by labour day.
That's the provincial site, hospitals have been taking registrations separately already.

But yes, the vaccine rollout here has been the equivalent of shitting the bed. And it's not really the rollout so much as procurement issues, of which there are many.

We have an ineffectual mayor, a dimwit premier and a Teflon Prime Minister, the perfect combination really....
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They surprised me with J&J, but it’s all good. Got my shot. Process was well run and smooth and lots of people were being process smoothly.

And it was kind of emotional. That Science we progressives love so much is pretty amazing.
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Old 03-17-2021, 10:23 PM   #531
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The US is now hoarding 60m doses of the AZ vaccine in warehouses - a vaccine that is not close to being approved due to the schedule of the trials. There are significantly more doses secured of the other 3 approved vaccines for the coming months than the size of the US population. Meanwhile only 1% of Africa has been vaccinated. Give those damn vaccines to countries that have already approved them.
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Just saw that starting on April 5th, all adults here in Iowa will be eligible for the vaccine. Looks like my mom and I will have a couple appointments coming up next month, then .
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Give it to Euro... oh right.
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might sound a little xenophobic and america first and all that, but i'm fine with the approach we're taking regarding procurement.

once there are enough shots to cover all of our citizens, then we must begin to share from our strategic reserves with nations around the world. it is a global pandemic, after all, and won't truly be done (even if things return to normal in this country) until it's done everywhere.

but even then - with so much unknown about mutations and how long vaccination works? yea -i don't want the cupboard to be bare again, like it was under trump. help vaccinate the world, but also keep a steady supply here in the states on reserve until we know that this shit's done.
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Once you do the math, there is already an overabundance of supply in the US to vaccinate much more than 100% of the population in this country (including children, which are not even close to being eligible). If a booster shot is needed, there will be an overabundance of supply. There is no health, economic or moral reason to hoard those vaccines - which, again, will not be approved for several months in the US, when hundreds of millions of doses will be available - when they could be saving lives and curbing the spread of new variants elsewhere.

The US is hoarding vaccine supply not only because they can afford more, but because drug companies depend on their regulatory frameworks. The developing world should do what they did with AIDS medication and break patents in order to locally produce generic vaccines.
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might sound a little xenophobic and america first and all that, but i'm fine with the approach we're taking regarding procurement.

once there are enough shots to cover all of our citizens, then we must begin to share from our strategic reserves with nations around the world. it is a global pandemic, after all, and won't truly be done (even if things return to normal in this country) until it's done everywhere.

but even then - with so much unknown about mutations and how long vaccination works? yea -i don't want the cupboard to be bare again, like it was under trump. help vaccinate the world, but also keep a steady supply here in the states on reserve until we know that this shit's done.


You might call it selfish or immoral, but it’s not xenophobic lol
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Ok. So call it selfish then.
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Also, while I see Gump's point, if the AZ vaccine is having all these issues in Europe, maybe not sending those doses to Africa or wherever is the right call for the time being regardless, at least until they get everything sorted out with it.
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The US will very shortly start shipping vaccines around. There is already an oversupply and a shit ton of $ to be made. My guess is no later than May and you'll see them selling to whoever is the highest bidder.

If there was some sort of global joint plan, which clearly there isn't, the Johnson & Johnson vaccine would have been earmarked for developing nations on the basis that it is the only single-dose one approved so far and doesn't need ultra-cold refrigeration.
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Old 03-18-2021, 11:44 AM   #540
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Looks like they read Gump's post... announced today that they're giving some AZ shots to Mexico.
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