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Old 10-29-2020, 12:35 PM   #21
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I am a bit like you - I don't want my kitchen mess to be seen, but you can still have an open concept kitchen/family room (people with kids typically want this) if you get a house where that's sort of sequestered in the back with a more formal living room/dining room at the front that you can use for gatherings.

This pandemic has really only further increased the distance between the lower class and the middle/upper classes. Many white collar professionals just haven't felt it the same way. I hope that at least the falling rents will do a bit to assist those with lower budgets get into reasonable housing.

But so many people thought that there would be flight from tall apartment/condo buildings in the aftermath of 9/11 and it didn't happen. Now again, we are hearing nightmarish stories of people who live on the 45th floor and who go out only when they absolutely have to because their building is allowing one or two people per elevator and the wait to go up or down can be upwards of 40 minutes. It's pretty clear we are all going to go back to some form of at least targeted lockdown and if I was in a position to get out of that sort of living arrangement, I'd do it too.
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Old 10-29-2020, 01:11 PM   #22
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I dream of moving out of this country all the time. Ireland would be my choice. Don't have the money to do it, but it's a nice fantasy.

Especially if, God forbid, nightmare scenario.
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Old 10-29-2020, 01:35 PM   #23
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My family is a huge outlier; we picked up a lease on an even more expensive apartment than we were already living in, in a safe, wealthy area of the county.

Things worked out extremely well for Ashley and I:

1. She took a harsh 15% pay cut, but due to quirks in the California EDD system, we had access to the $600 weekly unemployment checks even though she wasn't unemployed. I haven't done the math in a while, but with the stimulus check added in, we may have come out ahead financially.

2. We were given a rent subsidy by Los Angeles County that was worth about $2000. This allowed us to afford the deposit on a new apartment.

3. I was able to find a salaried teaching position in August. Most people are losing jobs, so to experience such a significant career turning point at exactly the right time was a blessing.
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Old 10-29-2020, 03:28 PM   #24
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Here in Sydney, I’ve heard a lot of anecdotal evidence of people leaving the city and moving up to the Central Coast. It’s an hours drive on a good day, but since working from home has become the new normal for many office jobs, why not live at the beach?

As much as I want working from home to become permanent, my wife and I have avoided making many changes to the house in terms of office space. We’re both comfortable at our desks, but once arrangements are confirmed following a vaccine we’ll probably set up something more professional at home.
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Old 10-30-2020, 03:26 AM   #25
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My wife and me started looking for a bigger apartment this summer, as the one we are living in is pretty small. We originally planned moving for next year, as there were travel plans for this year and we don't yet live on two full incomes. But our current apartment is very small and after the lockdown, with all travel plans scrapped, the yearning for more space (and also a better location) was so great we just started looking around.
We put it on hold again, though. It's not particularly easy to find something at the moment. Most properties on the market are relatively newly built apartments that are way pricier than the average, certainly a strain on our budget, and the layout usually is one huge room that serves as kitchen and living room, and two small rooms, one usually also being extremely narrow.
Work is extremely busy for me, and my wife is just wrapping up her phD, so after running to viewing appointments and always returning a little disappointed, we figured we can survive a few more months in the current apartment and start again next year.
So far, I don't feel Covid has had an impact on the rental market in Berlin. Though you would hear a lot of internationals saying they'd return to their home countries, I'm not sure how many really went through with it. I also think a lot of apartments never really enter the market, but are just handed over through word of mouth. Also, the city introduced a rent freeze this year for all buildings built before 2014. The law is currently going through the courts and there's a good chance it will be struck down, or at least major changes required, and I have a feeling that some property owners rather wait and see what the court decides, than entering into rental contracts at 50-60% of what they could've charged before the law.
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Old 10-30-2020, 07:41 PM   #26
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I wonder if we will see a 100k case record on Tuesday when the various states provide updates on the weekend testing.
Wrong by a couple of days. 97k today. Damn.
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Old 10-30-2020, 07:56 PM   #27
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Wrong by a couple of days. 97k today. Damn.
There is still about 90 minutes before the day is closed out on Worldometers. We'll crack 100k.

It's incredible that the most populous state in the union by far barely cracked the top 5 for new cases today. Ohio nearly surpassed California.
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Old 10-30-2020, 11:35 PM   #28
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Heckuva job, Pencey.

He’s done about as well with this as he did with Indiana’s 2015 HIV outbreak.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/08/u...s-indiana.html
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Old 10-31-2020, 04:11 AM   #29
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It would appear that England is going into a near total lockdown from Wednesday. Details haven’t been formally announced, but word is that on Monday Boris will close everything except essential stores and places of education.

Better to do it now (or like a month ago) with the hope of some family visits at Christmas. People won’t stay locked down by themselves on Christmas Day anyway, so hopefully this will minimise the damage.

And apparently the eat out to help out program over the summer was responsible for about 20% of the outbreaks that period in return for limited economic benefits. Who’da thunk?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e...inds-rwd3qd6gw
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It would appear that England is going into a near total lockdown from Wednesday. Details haven’t been formally announced, but word is that on Monday Boris will close everything except essential stores and places of education.

Better to do it now (or like a month ago) with the hope of some family visits at Christmas. People won’t stay locked down by themselves on Christmas Day anyway, so hopefully this will minimise the damage.

And apparently the eat out to help out program over the summer was responsible for about 20% of the outbreaks that period in return for limited economic benefits. Who’da thunk?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e...inds-rwd3qd6gw


It’s going to be a tough few months. Good luck.
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Old 11-01-2020, 01:58 AM   #31
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The early reports were true, Boris rushed out to give an urgent press conference announcing the tier 4 lockdown to begin on Thursday, ending December 2nd.

It’s coincided on the day that the UK has surpassed 1m cases and Australia posted 0 community transmissions for the first time since June.

Wish my family were here with me, just have to hope they’ll get through and have some semblance of a Christmas this year.
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Old 11-01-2020, 08:15 AM   #32
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I am sorry.

I love Christmas and although it’s been clear for months that it just won’t be normal, I still find it hard to cope with. We are actually considering pulling our kids from school/daycare a week early so that we can self isolate for 2 weeks and then at least have my parents over. My in laws live out of town unfortunately and travel this year is obviously a no go.
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Old 11-01-2020, 04:53 PM   #33
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He's such a clown

New York(CNN Business)Dr. Scott Atlas, an adviser on the White House Coronavirus Task Force, apologized after appearing in an interview with Russian state broadcaster RT, just days before Election Day.

In his apology, Atlas claimed he was unaware RT was a registered foreign agent.

RT is owned by Russian state-owned news agency RIA Novosti and subsidiary RT America is registered with the US Justice Department as an agent of the Russian government. The Kremlin uses RT to spread English-language propaganda to American audiences, and was part of Russia's election meddling in 2016, according to a 2017 report from the US Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
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Old 11-04-2020, 07:54 PM   #34
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103k cases today. Look at these curves.



And half of the country seems to be content with this.
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Old 11-05-2020, 08:59 AM   #35
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On another forum where I participate a poster actually posted that she laughs at people who think anything could have been done about covid other than not letting people from China in.

And that there's nothing we can do about covid until it decides to leave. Yep

No wonder we are so screwed.
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Pfizer vaccine looking good from the interim analysis, 90% effective.
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Old 11-09-2020, 09:39 AM   #38
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Global Pandemic Part IV: IV Experimental Cocktails

Some good news for a change regarding treatment and hopefully more data is released and reviewed.

My family has been hit by covid

Mom and dad positive this weekend

My mom got it from her 95 year old mom, who test positive while going into hospital for a broken hip

Grandma got it from my aunt who visited her two weeks ago and wasn’t feeling well. Thought it was allergies.

My aunt got it from another aunt who hosted a dinner.

So two sets of aunts and uncles is where it started. They are all sick, but seem to be slowly feeling better. The men suffered the worst of symptoms.

Grandma apparently feeling like a bad cold while she’s resting after surgery.

My mom has bronchitis and recovering from that so she’s not sure if her cough is any better worse after testing positive

My dad hasn’t been tested yet only cause mom found out yesterday but have to assume since they share house and were driving around in car all weekend for errands.

My parents are upper 60s. My mom has the worst of health issues with being former smoker, type 2 diabetes, and lung issues (bronchitis is a regular thing, and she gets the flu pretty bad each year). My dad still smokes and gets the occasional cold.

Obviously my concern is a severe case of this wiping them out but also the potential that even if it comes and goes, what does it do to their health moving forward ? How much damage does it do to their immune system or organs when the next bout of bronchitis or flu hit ?

Anyway, it’s completely up to nature at this point. Cross whatever bridge is in front of us, but of course hope for the best

They all live in Des Moines Iowa which has given up on controlling the pandemic and instead want people to learn to live with it.

I’m clearly annoyed with our federal and state governments, but also annoyed with my aunts and uncles for still getting together when they weren’t feeling well.

You can’t just assume it’s a allergy or cold during a pandemic
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Hoping for the best for your fam
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Old 11-09-2020, 11:04 AM   #40
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Fingers crossed that they all recover and don't have serious long-term effects.

I was hopeful that after COVID, people would at least learn to use their better judgment when heading to work or family gatherings while sick. I'm pretty sure we've all been at work in winter with people coming in with colds, flu and hacking their lungs out. And if you ever entered a daycare or a school in winter months, 90% of the kids had runny noses, coughs, etc. A huge problem has been that employers make people feel terrible for calling in sick, so hey, let's infect the whole office.

But I'm losing that hope because stories like BEAL's are anything but unique. There's a lot of "oh, it's just a cold/cough" and going to visit people with reckless disregard for consequences. If people can't even be bothered to stay at home while sick during a global pandemic, why the hell do we think they'll do so if/when a vaccine is out and we return to whatever normal will be.
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