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Old 02-17-2012, 01:56 PM   #21
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All media are right wing. They're owned by corporations and serve the interests of those corporations. Fox News is just way better at it because they're willing to be completely disingenuous. The other networks have tried to mix honesty in with their corporatist views and have failed to come close to Fox's ratings.


this is the actual truth. MSNBC, Fox, and CNN are in the entertainment business, with only CNN trying to hold onto a modicum of hard news, the rest is all meant to keep your attention as they compete for ratings in order to sell ad time to massive corporations interested in furthering their own bottom line.

further, what there is of media that presents itself as left (like much of the MSNBC primetime lineup) isn't nearly as far to the left as Fox is to the right.

if you want actual, unbiased news you'll seek out sources that don't have traditional advertisements and heads towards NPR or PBS.
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Old 02-17-2012, 06:43 PM   #22
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All media are right wing. They're owned by corporations and serve the interests of those corporations.
That's absurd. MSNBC trumpets that they "lean forward. The Washington Post couldn't be more different editorially than the Washington Times. True, corporations want a profit but the business models can vary 180 degrees.

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Fox News is just way better at it because they're willing to be completely disingenuous. The other networks have tried to mix honesty in with their corporatist views and have failed to come close to Fox's ratings.
No. Fox News succeeds by not being in the herd.

Or as Charles Krauthammer said, “the genius of Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch is that they found a niche… that is half the American people.”

A niche displeased with the bias of traditional news. You want proof? That's why we have a Fox News thread here, because their very existence is a threat to the progressive agenda so rarely challenged by non-Fox outlets.

Or are you going to tell me FYM doesn't "lean forward" either?
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Old 02-17-2012, 07:18 PM   #23
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Or maybe that half the American people don't like it when reality conflicts with their worldview, so they'd rather listen to an echo chamber that tells them what they want to hear while at the same time identifying various enemies and threats.

Judgi g by the success of conservative media, it seems conservatives are much more willing to pay to be lied to because it feels good.
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Just quietly, I've heard that Murdoch privately regards Ailes as a lunatic. The genius of Rupert Murdoch was to put a lunatic on a lunatic errand.
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Or maybe that half the American people don't like it when reality conflicts with their worldview, so they'd rather listen to an echo chamber that tells them what they want to hear while at the same time identifying various enemies and threats.
And that's your nuanced take on it is it? Well here's mine. Maybe half the American people are still awake having yet to fall asleep next to a Progressive pod.
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He's either a good performer or he really is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Either way he's gotten very rich off of it.
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Conservatives want to be told they're right and that people are against them.

Liberals want to be told that they are smart.
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And that's your nuanced take on it is it? Well here's mine. Maybe half the American people are still awake having yet to fall asleep next to a Progressive pod.
The most successful advertising reassures a person that what they are doing is okay. Fox does this. They tell their viewers that ignorance is okay so long as you wrap everything in jingoism and religious persecution.

I am many things, but I'm sure as shit not asleep at the wheel. I appreciate your attitude though. You sound above it all, like an activist judge!
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He had to open his own soda? Well that is just not right. Take that to the highest levels. The humiliation of that must not be tolerated.


DALLAS (AP) -- Radio talk show host Glenn Beck isn't backing down from his public attack on American Airlines.

For a second straight day, Beck on Wednesday used his show to complain that a flight attendant treated him rudely. Beck claims it was punishment for his conservative views.

Beck said American should fire the flight attendant, and he vowed to never fly on American again.

"These big, stodgy airlines that think they can treat people like garbage - they can't," Beck said during a 14-minute segment he devoted to the topic. He suggested that such poor service could explain why American had to seek bankruptcy protection, yet insisted that he wasn't trying to hurt American or urge fans to boycott the airline.

American said it regretted that Beck "had a disappointing experience" on his flight home Monday from Newark, N.J., to Dallas. The airline said it was still looking into Beck's complaint, a response that the commentator called "lumbering."

Beck said a flight attendant fawned over other passengers in first class but spoke only one word to him, and slammed a can of soda on his tray without opening it as he did for others. As for evidence of political bias, Beck said the man loudly told other passengers "how he was so proud of the very liberal cities in America." However, Beck acknowledged that his wife, seated across the aisle, didn't notice anything unusual.

American spokesman Matt Miller said the airline was still trying to figure out what happened on the flight. He declined to say whether the flight attendant would be fired if Beck's account is accurate.

"We take customer complaints seriously, but we owe it to all of our customers and people to follow our prescribed process to get the facts first and then take appropriate action," Miller said.

Thousands of travelers lodge complaints about airlines with the federal government each year, and many more gripe to the airline without filing a formal complaint. In June, the latest results available, American ranked 10th out of 15 airlines in rate of complaints.

Beck is no ordinary traveler. He has a radio show that attracts more than 8 million listeners per week, trailing only Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Michael Savage, according to Talkers, a magazine for the talk-show business.

But his protest likely won't affect the airline's revenue, said analyst Vicki Bryan, who follows American Airlines for bond-research firm Gimme Credit. She said Beck's followers are cost-conscious and will still shop for the best fare.

The president of the flight attendants' union, Laura Glading, said all passengers deserve and get courteous treatment from flight crews. She said that her group "will not allow Mr. Beck, or anyone else for that matter, to use a bully pulpit to jeopardize the livelihood of an American worker."

Airlines have feuded publicly with celebrities before. In December, actor Alec Baldwin was booted off an American flight for refusing to turn off his phone. He lampooned the airline on a "Saturday Night Live" skit in which he played an American pilot.

Baldwin is a liberal activist.

American is the nation's third-biggest airline. Based in Fort Worth, Texas, it is owned by AMR Corp., which filed for bankruptcy protection in November.
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