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Old 12-08-2009, 09:44 AM   #21
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Glenn Beck, in my humble Libertarian view, is alright.
Glenn Beck, in my humble libertarian view (being a libertarian is vastly different from being a member of that political party!!) is an idiot.
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Geez, do the right have any popular spokespeople that aren't hucksters?


George Will seems pretty reasonable. But I guess you gotta be over-the-top these days to get people to pay attention.

Who do we have on the left that behaves like this? Michael Moore? John Stewart, Bill Maher. . .but they're comedians. I wouldn't have a problem with Beck if he were more transparent about this being his schtick. Whose the guy that 2861 is always complaining about? Olberman. I don't think I've ever seen him. . I guess he's on MSNBC? Is he having rallies and writing books and developing 100 year plans?

It's not just that I disagree with the views of Beck and his type, though I do. It's the cyncism, the manipulation, that really gets to me. There's no honest opposition on the right, or if there is, it's being drowned out by these clowns.

Even in here, otherwise smart people seem to fall back on parroting the lazy fearmongering these types promote. Just once I'd like to see a cogent, thoughtful, and compelling conservative argument that doesn't fall back on the "Obama is going to destroy America" hyperbole.
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Bill Maher definitely is like that, but I'd say that most of Jon Stewart's actual points are quite on target, even if he sometimes dresses them up in over-the-top humor to make them.

And Keith Olbermann is like a mirror image of Bill O'Reilly. I don't know how he got into politics, though. Quite frankly, I always knew him as "that guy who used to anchor Sportscenter" up until a year ago or so.



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As the Tiger Woods affair scandal roils, right-wing radio hosts Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh are gleefully using the brouhaha to stoke the fires of controversy.

On Tuesday's episode of "The Glenn Beck Program," Beck asked listeners a "Christmas question" as the carol "Do You Hear What I Hear?" played in the background.

"Do you believe Tiger Woods may actually be O.J. Simpson?"

A dumbfounded guest responded, "Is that a Christmas question?"

Beck persisted, prompting another guest to respond, "I think the thing with O.J. was the murder, wasn't it?"

Undeterred, Beck referred to the 911 call placed from Woods' home early Monday morning.

"Well, there was a woman taken to the hospital last night at O.J.'s, er, I mean, I'm sorry, Tiger's house," Beck said.

His guest interjected, "Nobody believes it was an assault."

"I'm not saying it was an assault or anything else," Beck said. "I'm just ... you know, Tiger ... we're starting to lose control here."

The panel, in a bizarre attempt at satire, then suggested Woods implicate himself in absurd criminal activity he could subsequently retract to lessen the sex scandal's stain on his reputation.

"I want him to have ACORN-underage-El Salvadorian hookers in his basement ... that's what I'm leaking ... so he can say, 'No, that was just ridiculous.' "

The Web quickly reverberated with commentary alleging racist undertones in the broadcast, TheAtlanticWire.com reported.

Limbaugh, too, has waded into the controversy with a racially provocative statement.

On Tuesday's edition of "The Rush Limbaugh Show," the right-wing radio firebrand sounded off on "the black frame of mind" and the disappointment he claims the African-American community feels toward the Obama presidency.

"The black frame of mind is terrible. They're depressed. They're down -- Obama's not doing anything for 'em. How is that hoax and change workin' for ya? They're all livid," Limbaugh said.

Blacks are "upset" and "feel abandoned" by Obama and, he added, "I'm sure Tiger Woods' choice of females [is] not helping 'em out with their attitudes there, either."

That the women involved in the Tiger Woods affair allegations are all white has been widely discussed in the black community -- and Woods' already-shaky standing among many African-Americans has taken a bludgeoning.
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As the Tiger Woods affair scandal roils, right-wing radio hosts Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh are gleefully using the brouhaha to stoke the fires of controversy.

On Tuesday's episode of "The Glenn Beck Program," Beck asked listeners a "Christmas question" as the carol "Do You Hear What I Hear?" played in the background.

"Do you believe Tiger Woods may actually be O.J. Simpson?"

A dumbfounded guest responded, "Is that a Christmas question?"

Beck persisted, prompting another guest to respond, "I think the thing with O.J. was the murder, wasn't it?"

Undeterred, Beck referred to the 911 call placed from Woods' home early Monday morning.

"Well, there was a woman taken to the hospital last night at O.J.'s, er, I mean, I'm sorry, Tiger's house," Beck said.

His guest interjected, "Nobody believes it was an assault."

"I'm not saying it was an assault or anything else," Beck said. "I'm just ... you know, Tiger ... we're starting to lose control here."

The panel, in a bizarre attempt at satire, then suggested Woods implicate himself in absurd criminal activity he could subsequently retract to lessen the sex scandal's stain on his reputation.

"I want him to have ACORN-underage-El Salvadorian hookers in his basement ... that's what I'm leaking ... so he can say, 'No, that was just ridiculous.' "

The Web quickly reverberated with commentary alleging racist undertones in the broadcast, TheAtlanticWire.com reported.

Limbaugh, too, has waded into the controversy with a racially provocative statement.

On Tuesday's edition of "The Rush Limbaugh Show," the right-wing radio firebrand sounded off on "the black frame of mind" and the disappointment he claims the African-American community feels toward the Obama presidency.

"The black frame of mind is terrible. They're depressed. They're down -- Obama's not doing anything for 'em. How is that hoax and change workin' for ya? They're all livid," Limbaugh said.

Blacks are "upset" and "feel abandoned" by Obama and, he added, "I'm sure Tiger Woods' choice of females [is] not helping 'em out with their attitudes there, either."

That the women involved in the Tiger Woods affair allegations are all white has been widely discussed in the black community -- and Woods' already-shaky standing among many African-Americans has taken a bludgeoning.
How did Rush get into our every other Tuesday meeting of the Black Community?

. . .

No, Rush isn't racist at all. . .
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I have a dream too. It involves punching Glenn Beck in the face repeatedly.
Just hearing his name intimidates me; one of my coworkers is a huge fan, and also a fellow right-winger.

I've got a tiny picture of Obama over my computer that I actually shift when this guy walks near. The photo says "Hope." To avoid any kind of verbal confrontation, I move it in slightly so it reads "Hop."

I have a sneaking suspicion that he's highly representative of Glenn Beck's fanbase.
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Glenn Beck's viewership:



(And if you think that it's lazy, stupid, and stereotypical to post that ... so is Glenn Beck.)

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Victim In Fatal Car Accident Tragically Not Glenn Beck
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Old 12-10-2009, 02:27 AM   #30
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Limbaugh, too, has waded into the controversy with a racially provocative statement.

On Tuesday's edition of "The Rush Limbaugh Show," the right-wing radio firebrand sounded off on "the black frame of mind" and the disappointment he claims the African-American community feels toward the Obama presidency.

"The black frame of mind is terrible. They're depressed. They're down -- Obama's not doing anything for 'em. How is that hoax and change workin' for ya? They're all livid," Limbaugh said.
Of course the article fails to mention that Rush was commenting on clips of Jesse Jackson on a recent television show sounding less than pleased with the President's first year agenda.

But that would be real journalism rather than pushing a point of view.
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Of course the article fails to mention that Rush was commenting on clips of Jesse Jackson on a recent television show sounding less than pleased with the President's first year agenda.

But that would be real journalism rather than pushing a point of view.
Did you actually listen to this segment? This is what he claimed he did, but it's not actually what he did. I actually listened to it and his spin was his typical schtick.
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Did you actually listen to this segment? This is what he claimed he did, but it's not actually what he did. I actually listened to it and his spin was his typical schtick.
What are you talking about? I listened to the segment on Tuesday and that's exactly what he did...
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I'll wait for the left to condemn this garbage. I'll wait for them to condemn violent, dangerous, hateful rhetoric that serves no purpose but to halt decent discussion, even if it is meant as "comedy."

I don't know why you would post that, JT. Do you really think that video is at all funny? That's the type of person you are? I think you can do better.
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It's the Onion, why should anyone have to condemn it?
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What are you talking about? I listened to the segment on Tuesday and that's exactly what he did...
Nowhere in the Jesse Jackson piece that he was "commenting" on mentioned anything about Tiger Woods or "black frame of mind" or being "depressed". You can defend this guy all you want, you've had blatant racism and sexism placed right before your eyes several times in here and have turned a blind eye to, even denied it, so I'm sure this time won't be any different. But the truth is pretty obvious.

In fact the quote that Rush did use was doctored, two seperate quotes put together. The Rude Pundit: Limbaugh Doctored Jesse Jackson Quote to Make It Look Like Jackson Opposes Obama - Democratic Underground
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Of course the article fails to mention that Rush was commenting on clips of Jesse Jackson on a recent television show sounding less than pleased with the President's first year agenda.

But that would be real journalism rather than pushing a point of view.
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What are you talking about? I listened to the segment on Tuesday and that's exactly what he did...
I just lost so much respect for both of you every time you defend this piece of shit. Rush Limbaugh is a piece of shit. He should be an embarrassment to you and people of your viewpoint. Don't try and turn this around on me and say I defend pieces of shit, because A) that's not really true at all and B) no one I associate myself with in the public eye is as despicable a human as Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh is the scum of the Earth, and I mean that with full sincerity and objectivity.
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I'll wait for the left to condemn this garbage.
"The left" should be condemning a satirical publication? Are you for real?
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I'll wait for the left to condemn this garbage. I'll wait for them to condemn violent, dangerous, hateful rhetoric that serves no purpose but to halt decent discussion, even if it is meant as "comedy."

I don't know why you would post that, JT. Do you really think that video is at all funny? That's the type of person you are? I think you can do better.
But it's not serious. Glenn Beck is serious. Rush Limbaugh is serious. Bill O'Reilly is serious.

I would only ask you to condemn people who are serious and have hateful rhetoric that serves no purpose but to halt decent discussion. And by that, I mean Beck and Limbaugh.
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I don't know why you would post that, JT. Do you really think that video is at all funny? That's the type of person you are? I think you can do better.
I think its hilarious, to be honest. So ya, I guess thats the type of person I am. What kind of person gets so bend out of shape over satire? You need to lighten up and stop taking life so seriously, chief

And why did I post it? Sometimes FYM gets too far up its own ass and needs a laugh. Lighten up, Sunshine
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I just lost so much respect for both of you every time you defend this piece of shit. Rush Limbaugh is a piece of shit. He should be an embarrassment to you and people of your viewpoint. Don't try and turn this around on me and say I defend pieces of shit, because A) that's not really true at all and B) no one I associate myself with in the public eye is as despicable a human as Rush Limbaugh. Rush Limbaugh is the scum of the Earth, and I mean that with full sincerity and objectivity.
This was all in the context of Jackson's tv appearance along with his very recent statement to the Congressional Black Caucus (itself upset with the president over portions of his agenda) that "We even have blacks voting against the health care bill. You can't vote against health care and call yourself a black man." Defend that Philly !! Plus the whole Tiger and white women thing that everyone is afraid to touch.

Rush is putting his slant on this for sure, that what he does, but racist it isn't.

ps Bill Hicks was a real pussy cat wasn't he?
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