Glenn Beck Has A Dream

[maycocksean]

Originally Posted by INDY500

OHHHHHHH, The biggest softball question of all-time.

Off the top of my head;

Maxine Waters who stated in a congressional hearing that "this liberal will be all about nationalizing oil companies."

Bernie Sanders of the Socialist Party

Alan Grayson. A partisan nut who called our healthcare system a "holocaust." Talk about lack of proportion.

Andre Carson. The black congressman that has been proven to had lied about being call the n-word 15 times.

The Black Caucus members that visit Cuba to pay their respects to Fidel Castro. Disgraceful.

Jim Mcdermott, who was actually flown into Iraq by Saddam Hussein to propagandize against the war. A 1st class tool.

Hank Johnson of Georgia who is concerned that global warming will cause the island of Guam to CAPSIZE.

Dennis Kucinich. Need I say more. As left-wing economically as you can get.

Then you have those "left-wing idiots" that are completely out-of-touch with Americans on health care, immigration, energy, the Tea Parties and government spending.

100 days and counting. 100 days and counting.

None of these people have near the influence that the extremists on the right have, a fact for which I am sad, and you, presumably should be glad.

[MrsSpringsteen]

Originally Posted by YBORCITYOBL

No I believe he's just an idiot with selective memory and he uses it to push his ideology

I was only kidding It's rather obvious that's what he is.

It's like taking edited videos and using them for certain purposes and suddenly a person is out of a job and labeled a racist because these people can even control what the WH does. Pathetic.

[YBORCITY]

Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

I was only kidding It's rather obvious that's what he is.

It's like taking edited videos and using them for certain purposes and suddenly a person is out of a job and labeled a racist because these people can even control what the WH does. Pathetic.

Mrs.Springsteen - I knew that what you said was in total jest but what I said was more for Indy, Iron Horse and those guys.

I can't believe that the once proud GOP is down to editing a video and making believe it was real - it's actually beyond pathetic.

[maycocksean]

Originally Posted by YBORCITYOBL

Mrs.Springsteen - I knew that what you said was in total jest but what I said was more for Indy, Iron Horse and those guys.

I can't believe that the once proud GOP is down to editing a video and making believe it was real - it's actually beyond pathetic.

I'd love to see you post more here. Unfortunately, most of the conservative reps on this forum seem to have drunk the Beck kool-aid and it's very difficult to have a real discussion (though in fairness, there have been moments of genuine debate with most of the regular posters). I'd like to hear some solid conservative arguments rather than the kind of hoopla we usually get.

[INDY500]

Originally Posted by maycocksean

what seems to be lost on Beck is that the anti-Japanese prejudice is one of the great shames of World War II.

I'm surprised he isn't advocating internment camps.

You'll get no defending of Japanese-Americans getting their rights taken away. And I consider Japan today to be one of our best trading partners. But America's anti-Japanese prejudice in the 40's was no shame, in fact, it was not only warranted but vital.

Just a reminder. Japan attacked the United States and declared war on us. They were a formidable foe and an imperialistic country with a cult of personality leader in Emperor Hirohito. (Kamikaze pilots were the 1st suicide bombers.) American along with Allied and Chinese POWs were brutally treated and abused. Real war crimes, atrocities and torture (unlike the politically puffed-up charges against GWB). Japan made no secret of its intentions to ignore the Geneva Conventions. Hundreds of thousands of prisoners were forced to work in prison camps. Between dysentery and the working conditions almost 20,000 Allied POWs died building the Death Railway in Burma.

Read a book called Ship of Ghosts about POWs from the USS Houston during WWII and you'll never call the waterboarding of 3 detainees under the strictest medical supervision and only for information to save lives... torture or a war crime. And you'll see that there is no shame for dropping atomic bombs on Japan or showing anti-Empire of Japan prejudice.



Even Bugs Bunny was ready to kill "Nips" and "Japs."

[financeguy]

Originally Posted by INDY500

You'll get no defending of Japanese-Americans getting their rights taken away. And I consider Japan today to be one of our best trading partners. But America's anti-Japanese prejudice in the 40's was no shame, in fact, it was not only warranted but vital.

Just a reminder. Japan attacked the United states and declared war on us. They were a formidable foe and an imperialistic country with a cult of personality leader in Emperor Hirohito. (Kamikaze pilots were the 1st suicide bombers.) American along with Allied and Chinese POWs were brutally treated and abused. Real war crimes, atrocities and torture (unlike the politically puffed-up charges against GWB). Japan made no secret of its intentions to ignore the Geneva Conventions. Hundreds of thousands of prisoners were forced to work in prison camps. Between dysentery and the working conditions almost 20,000 Allied POWs died building the Death Railway in Burma.

Read a book called Ship of Ghosts about POWs from the USS Houston during WWII and you'll never call the waterboarding of 3 detainees under the strictest medical supervision and only for information to save lives... torture or a war crime. And you'll see that there is no shame for dropping atomic bombs on Japan or showing anti-Imperialist-Japan prejudice.



Even Bugs Bunny was ready to kill "Nips" and "Japs."

Here's a zany, far-out, idea. How about adjudging torture wrong whether it is committed by recent US administration or Japan 70 years ago? Why is that rubicon so difficult to cross for you?

[anitram]

Originally Posted by INDY500

But America's anti-Japanese prejudice in the 40's was no shame, in fact, it was not only warranted but vital.

Just when I thought I have heard it all on this forum, this.

I hope you are so open minded about what people around the world feel is "warranted" and "vital" when they encounter Americans in their midst.

[INDY500]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

Andre Carson. The black congressman that has been proven to had lied about being call the n-word 15 times.

is this really the best you can do?

i mean, seriously:

My bad, of course the Left long ago ceased to be embarrassed or shamed by bold-faced lying or playing the race card for political gain. In fact, nowadays it's SOP for the Left isn't it? Well, how about this far left-wing idiot...

July 22, 2010

WITI-TV, MILWAUKEE - An independent candidate running for the state Assembly in Milwaukee won't be able to describe herself on the ballot using the statement "NOT the 'whiteman's bitch."

State law allows independent candidates to have five words describing them placed after their name on the ballot.

Ieshuh Griffin argued the phrase was protected free speech.

But the state Government Accountability Board said Wednesday that the statement was pejorative and not allowed.

The board is composed of white, retired judges. Three of them voted to allow the description but two did not. She needed four votes.

[INDY500]

Originally Posted by anitram

Just when I thought I have heard it all on this forum, this.

I hope you are so open minded about what people around the world feel is "warranted" and "vital" when they encounter Americans in their midst.

You didn't even bother to read the whole post did you?

Just more hate from a conservative right?

I have to wonder about what type of garbage you've been taught about the United States and WWII. And if you're under a certain age I wouldn't actually blame you for some beliefs you may have.

[INDY500]

Originally Posted by financeguy

Here's a zany, far-out, idea. How about adjudging torture wrong whether it is committed by recent US administration or Japan 70 years ago? Why is that rubicon so difficult to cross for you?

Thank goodness some countries were willing to take on the Axis armies.

[PhilsFan]

Originally Posted by INDY500

You didn't even bother to read the whole post did you?

Just more hate from a conservative right?

I have to wonder about what type of garbage you've been taught about the United States and WWII. And if you're under a certain age I wouldn't actually blame you for some beliefs you may have.

Your post only talked about Imperialist Japan. The injustice of the 40s was the treatment of Japanese-Americans and Japanese immigrants in America.

[PhilsFan]

Originally Posted by INDY500

My bad, of course the Left long ago ceased to be embarrassed or shamed by bold-faced lying or playing the race card for political gain. In fact, nowadays it's SOP for the Left isn't it? Well, how about this far left-wing idiot...

You do realize that you responded to a post criticizing you for cherry-picking and using huge stretches of logic ... by cherry-picking and using huge stretches of logic, right?

[financeguy]

Originally Posted by INDY500

Thank goodness some countries were willing to take on the Axis armies.

I disagree with the Irish neutrality policy during WWII.

[maycocksean]

Originally Posted by INDY500

You'll get no defending of Japanese-Americans getting their rights taken away. And I consider Japan today to be one of our best trading partners. But America's anti-Japanese prejudice in the 40's was no shame, in fact, it was not only warranted but vital.

Just a reminder. Japan attacked the United States and declared war on us. They were a formidable foe and an imperialistic country with a cult of personality leader in Emperor Hirohito. (Kamikaze pilots were the 1st suicide bombers.) American along with Allied and Chinese POWs were brutally treated and abused. Real war crimes, atrocities and torture (unlike the politically puffed-up charges against GWB). Japan made no secret of its intentions to ignore the Geneva Conventions. Hundreds of thousands of prisoners were forced to work in prison camps. Between dysentery and the working conditions almost 20,000 Allied POWs died building the Death Railway in Burma.

Read a book called Ship of Ghosts about POWs from the USS Houston during WWII and you'll never call the waterboarding of 3 detainees under the strictest medical supervision and only for information to save lives... torture or a war crime. And you'll see that there is no shame for dropping atomic bombs on Japan or showing anti-Empire of Japan prejudice.



Even Bugs Bunny was ready to kill "Nips" and "Japs."

The actions of the Japanese government in Japan have NOTHING to do with the Japanese-AMERICANS who were interned unjustly due to racial prejudice. There were no German-American internment camps, though Nazi Germany was also an enemy of the United States and also responsible for horrific atrocities and inhumanities.

Despite the their unjust treatment, Japanese-Americans in the camps remained loyal to their country and in fact the unit of Japanese-American soldiers that fought in the European theater were one of the most decorated.

I'm not rewriting U.S. history here, but you are. Your statement that the internment of Japanese-AMERICANS was warranted and vital implies that in fact U.S. citizens of Japanese descent were a real threat and only the liberal rewriting of history that has turnred these dangerous conspirators into victims. Such nonsense is revisionism at its worst.

And that you would use a cartoon that uses such blatant racial stereotypes as support for your argument is just unbelievable.

Originally Posted by anitram

Just when I thought I have heard it all on this forum, this.

I hope you are so open minded about what people around the world feel is "warranted" and "vital" when they encounter Americans in their midst.

No joke.

[martha]

nm

[anitram]

Originally Posted by maycocksean

No joke.

Seems like you too are as uneducated as I am.

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by INDY500

You'll get no defending of Japanese-Americans getting their rights taken away. And I consider Japan today to be one of our best trading partners. But America's anti-Japanese prejudice in the 40's was no shame, in fact, it was not only warranted but vital.

Just a reminder. Japan attacked the United States and declared war on us. They were a formidable foe and an imperialistic country with a cult of personality leader in Emperor Hirohito. (Kamikaze pilots were the 1st suicide bombers.) American along with Allied and Chinese POWs were brutally treated and abused. Real war crimes, atrocities and torture (unlike the politically puffed-up charges against GWB). Japan made no secret of its intentions to ignore the Geneva Conventions. Hundreds of thousands of prisoners were forced to work in prison camps. Between dysentery and the working conditions almost 20,000 Allied POWs died building the Death Railway in Burma.

Gee, thanks for the history lesson, prof. Should we have also set up internment camps for German-Americans?

The only way your (appalling) statement would work is if citizens who emigrated to another country were a monolithic group that functioned as agents for their homeland's government. And since that's obviously untrue and too absurd to even consider, I'm left in shock that you could make such a bigotted statement with a straight face.

Even Bugs Bunny was ready to kill "Nips" and "Japs."

Seriously?

Seriously??

[financeguy]

Originally Posted by maycocksean

There were no German-American internment camps, though Nazi Germany was also an enemy of the United States and also responsible for horrific atrocities and inhumanities.

"There were no German-American internment camps."

That is surely not correct?

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by PhilsFan

Your post only talked about Imperialist Japan. The injustice of the 40s was the treatment of Japanese-Americans and Japanese immigrants in America.

this pretty much says it all.

having met and interviewed Japanese-Americans who lived in internment camps, i won't even dignify INDY's post with a response.

but i will say that it should serve as an example of the beating, bleeding racist heart of right wing America.

[corianderstem]

Originally Posted by financeguy

"There were no German-American internment camps."

That is surely not correct?

Yes, it is correct. The US government did not round up German Americans and take them to camps "for their own safety" like they did with Japanese Americans.