Flight MH370 ?? What happened?

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by trojanchick99

But would it explain the transponder being turned off?

this is the thing.

[Earnie Shavers]

Only if the hole in the plane that caused the decompression happened to be where the signal is received/sent.

[BoMac]

ABC News reporting that the search is now expanding to the Indian Ocean:

http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=228...fter_vani.html

[BoMac]

http://m.calgarysun.com/2014/03/13/m...ng-sources-say

[bono_212]

[Earnie Shavers]

It’s certainly looking like – if the various US ‘unnamed sources’ are correct and it followed that plotted path – it could only have been one (or more) of the crew deliberately trying to take the plane elsewhere. No hijack/outsider. No oxygen or other technical issue. Even if it’s ever confirmed, wonder if we’ll ever find out why.

[BoMac]

Certainly starting to look like a deliberate act:

http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/#!/content/1.2572287/

[Irvine511]

i'm guessing this may have something to do with Chinese domestic problems -- Xinjiang separatists -- that the government wants to keep on the DL.

[Earnie Shavers]

I dunno. If you go by the US ‘unnamed sources’ reporting of where and how the plane flew, it’s a really professional job, i.e. someone who knew exactly what they were doing within that region. Getting absolutely no communication out in the case of a hijacking is also pretty strange. They would have had to force or fight their way into the cockpit – even if it’s only seconds, there would or should have been enough time there for one of the pilots to trigger some sort of communication. This would have also still been pretty close to the Malaysian coast. And then, the timing of everything is really deliberate. The plane signs off from Malaysian ATC at the moment it should, then never checks in with Vietnamese ATC at the moment it crosses into their territory. That’s the moment when the transponder is turned off. So neither Malaysian nor Vietnamese ATC see it ‘disappear’, it leaves Malaysian ATC as expected and Vietnamese ATC just never see it arrive. Perfect timing, after someone has fought their way into the cabin, possibly fighting off passengers too? The plane then turns around, drops altitude, crosses Malaysia at a thin point of minimal radar and then perfectly follows the regular commercial airline lane north west over the Andaman Sea. Doesn’t sound like a semi-pro ‘terrorist’ job.

One thing that is under-reported and is interesting is that this wasn’t a full flight – it had approx. 50 empty seats. That’s interesting because they had 5 passengers miss the plane (mostly through missed connections) and were able to call up some people waiting on standby to take their places. But if you had 50 empty seats, why would it take the ‘missing’ 5 passengers to allow for some people on standby to join the flight? It would normally mean that they were keeping 50 seats free of passengers (and their luggage) due to weight constrictions, i.e. there was some really heavy cargo on that plane. And they’re still refusing to release any info about what else was on board. Notch it under conspiracy, but it’s pretty interesting.

[Axver]

Plus, if it was a terrorist job, surely somebody would have claimed responsibility by now. You don't make a plane spectacularly disappear, capturing global attention, only to then not capitalise on the ensuing publicity.

This really does just get more mysterious by the day, especially with every new revelation/denial.

[Irvine511]

Originally Posted by Axver

Plus, if it was a terrorist job, surely somebody would have claimed responsibility by now. You don't make a plane spectacularly disappear, capturing global attention, only to then not capitalise on the ensuing publicity.

This really does just get more mysterious by the day, especially with every new revelation/denial.

Unless someone wants to use the plane as a bomb, like its a Tom Clancy novel.

I don't think that's true, but at this point, who can say?

[mikal]

Have they found the hatch yet?

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[bono_212]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

Unless someone wants to use the plane as a bomb, like its a Tom Clancy novel.

I don't think that's true, but at this point, who can say?

That was my first thought when I started to get nervous about hijacking, that it reminded me a lot of The Sum of All Fears.

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by BoMac

Certainly starting to look like a deliberate act:

CBCNews.ca Mobile

The signals were part of the routine pings that are sent out through the plane's Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS), transmitting diagnostic data about the performance of engines and other equipment to engine manufacturers and airlines.

So the WSJ article was correct?

Malaysia says it has asked neighbouring countries for their radar data but has not confirmed receiving the information. Indonesian and Thai authorities said on Friday they had not received an official request for such data from Malaysia.

This shit annoys the fuck out of me. Ok, so does someone now have this information? Is it being looked through? Just because you weren't asked, doesn't mean that you shouldn't be giving this info to someone.

[digitize]

Originally Posted by bono_212

So the WSJ article was correct?

The data transmitted was not Rolls Royce engine data, as WSJ initially reported. However, there was some data sent from the plane to satellites, owned by a company called Inmarsat, for five-ish hours after the last air traffic control transmission.

[bono_212]

Originally Posted by digitize

The data transmitted was not Rolls Royce engine data, as WSJ initially reported. However, there was some data sent from the plane to satellites, owned by a company called Inmarsat, for five-ish hours after the last air traffic control transmission.

OK, that's what I thought, it was just the way the article Bomac posted phrased it, making me think it was the same thing WSJ was saying.

[bono_212]

WNDU ‏@WNDU 2m

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) - Malaysian official says investigators conclude missing jet was hijacked, steered off-course.

I'm waiting for some kind of article to back this up. All I'm seeing right now are news services passing on the headline.


EDIT: Here it is...

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — A Malaysian government official says investigators have concluded that one of the pilots or someone else with flying experience hijacked the missing Malaysia Airlines jet.
The official, who is involved in the investigation, says no motive has been established, and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media.
The official said that hijacking was no longer a theory. "It is conclusive."
The Boeing 777's communication with the ground was severed under one hour into a flight March 8 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. Malaysian officials have said radar data suggest it may have turned back and crossed back over the Malaysian peninsula westward, after setting out toward the Chinese capital.

[trojanchick99]

Ugh. Also just received word that one of the passengers worked for my office while she was in grad school. Just awful. She was such a sweetheart.

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[bono_212]

Originally Posted by trojanchick99

Ugh. Also just received word that one of the passengers worked for my office while she was in grad school. Just awful. She was such a sweetheart.

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I'm sorry to hear that .


The Malaysian PM is speaking now, I guess.

Bob Woodruff ‏@BobWoodruff 27m I asked the Malaysia Prime Minister if they are searching the homes of the pilots. He wouldn't respond. @ABC pic.twitter.com/N0K5b6lPJQ

[Axver]

Originally Posted by Irvine511

Unless someone wants to use the plane as a bomb, like its a Tom Clancy novel.

I don't think that's true, but at this point, who can say?

I suppose the key point here is that you can't just land a 777 anywhere, so the probability of it actually secretly landing at an airport ahead of future terrorist use is very remote.

Though everything's getting really bizarre now with reports like this (from the Guardian's live blog):

The plane could have landed in Kyrgyzstan or China, according to Malaysian officials.

And then there's this, the two possible last known location ranges based on the satellite pings: https://twitter.com/sunshinesulin/st...868482/photo/1