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[MrsSpringsteen]

It's been great for business-guess that was the whole reason for doing it. Any publicity is good, so who cares about anything else?

Dubai gym slammed for using Nazi death camp Auschwitz to promote weight loss | Mail Online

[ryancoke71]

Originally Posted by MrsSpringsteen

By Olivia Katrandjian
Jan 7, 2012 6:07pm
‘If Fred Got Two Beatings Per Day…’ Homework Asks


Third graders in in Gwinnett County, Ga., were given math homework Wednesday that asked questions about slavery and beatings.

Christopher Braxton told ABC News affiliate WSB-TV in Atlanta that he couldn’t believe the assignment his 8-year-old son brought home from of Beaver Ridge Elementary school in Norcross.

“It kind of blew me away,” Braxton said. “Do you see what I see? Do you really see what I see? He’s not answering this question.”

The question read, “Each tree had 56 oranges. If eight slaves pick them equally, then how much would each slave pick?”

Another math problem read, “If Frederick got two beatings per day, how many beatings did he get in one week?”

Another question asked how many baskets of cotton Frederick filled.

“I was furious at that point,” Braxton said.

“This outrages me because it just lets me know that there’s still racists,” said Stephanie Jones, whose child is a student at the school.

“Something like that shouldn’t be imbedded into a kid of the third, fourth, fifth, any grade,” parent Terrance Barnett told WSB-TV. “I’m having to explain to my 8-year-old why slavery or slaves or beatings are in a math problem. That hurts.”

“In this one, the teachers were trying to do a cross-curricular activity,” Gwinnett County school district spokeswoman Sloan Roach said.

Roach said the teachers were attempting to incorporate social studies into math problems.

"We understand that there are concerns about these questions, and we agree that these questions were not appropriate,”
she said.

Holy shit. Just wow. I don't even know what else to say....

[corianderstem]

I know school budgets are being cut all over, but did they really need to dig out those old textbooks from 1840 to save a few bucks?

[deep]

“In this one, the teachers were trying to do a cross-curricular activity,” Gwinnett County school district spokeswoman Sloan Roach said.
Roach said the teachers were attempting to incorporate social studies into math problems.

kids don't get enough social studies these days

“If slave Sally Hemings got two beatings per day from her master Thomas Jefferson, how many beatings did she get in one week?”

Michelle Bachmann says the Founding Fathers were fighting slavery.

[deep]

Originally Posted by corianderstem

I know school budgets are being cut all over, but did they really need to dig out those old textbooks from 1840 to save a few bucks?

more like the 1940s

[Moonlit_Angel]

What the ever-fucking HELL?

Uh. Yeah. There's no words for those stories. Wow.

[MrsSpringsteen]

Washington (CNN) -- Two of the four Marines shown in a video urinating on dead bodies sprawled out on the ground have been identified by the Marine Corps, a Marine Corps official told CNN Thursday.

The names are not being made public, said the official, who did not want to be identified because the investigation is ongoing.

The identities were determined as officials in the United States and Afghanistan expressed shock and outrage regarding the video, which was posted Wednesday to a number of websites.

"I have seen the footage, and I find the behavior depicted in it utterly deplorable," U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said in a statement. "I condemn it in the strongest possible terms."

Panetta said he has ordered the Marine Corps and International Security Assistance Force Commander Gen. John Allen "to immediately and fully investigate the incident."

"This conduct is entirely inappropriate for members of the United States military and does not reflect the standards of values our armed forces are sworn to uphold," Panetta's statement said. "Those found to have engaged in such conduct will be held accountable to the fullest extent."

A senior Pentagon official said Panetta was "deeply troubled" after viewing the video.

Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Amos said in a statement the behavior is "wholly inconsistent with the high standards of conduct and warrior ethos that we have demonstrated throughout our history."

Lt. Gen. Adrian Bradshaw, deputy commander of ISAF, called the actions on the video "disgusting."

"Any acts which treat the dead, enemy or friendly, with disrespect are utterly unacceptable and do not represent the standards we expect of coalition forces," Bradshaw said in a video statement. He said he was speaking on behalf of Allen, who is out of the country.

"It is difficult to say what long-term impacts this might have, and I would hesitate to get into speculation, but obviously any sort of footage, any sort of activity of this kind that is grossly against all the moral values that the coalition forces are standing for are very much working against our cause and against everything that we are standing for and that we are here for," said Brig. Gen. Carsten Jacobson, a NATO ISAF spokesman. "We will find the ones who are responsible and hold them accountable."

An earlier statement from NATO-led forces in Afghanistan said, "ISAF strongly condemns the actions depicted in the video, which appear to have been conducted by a small group of U.S. individuals, who apparently are no longer serving in Afghanistan."

A senior U.S. military official said the Naval Criminal Investigative Service is the lead investigative agency on the incident. A Marine Corps investigation was announced Wednesday.

While the identities of the people on the video haven't been released, the leadership of the 3rd Battalion 2nd Marine Regiment "is confident those are their Marines" on the video, according to a U.S. Marine official with direct knowledge of the initial investigation. Commanders are "not able to put names to Marines yet, but confident they fall under the 3/2," the official said.

The unit, which is based at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, deployed last February or March and returned in September or October. While in Afghanistan, the unit was based primarily in Helmand province.

The video shows four men dressed in Marine combat gear urinating on what appeared to be the dead bodies of three men on the ground in front of them.

One of the men says, "Have a great day, buddy." A voice asks, "You got it on the video?" to which another voice responds, "Yeah." Another jokes, "Golden, like a shower."

It was not clear who shot or posted the 39-second video or where, though a U.S. official said it was a "reasonable conclusion" it was filmed in Afghanistan.

The official, based in Afghanistan, spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

President Barack Obama knows about the video, said White House spokesman Jay Carney, who said he didn't know if Obama had viewed it. "What it apparently depicts is deplorable, reprehensible and unacceptable," Carney said, adding the president agrees with Panetta's statement.

Amos said he has pulled together a team "to thoroughly investigate every aspect of the filmed event." He said he will also assign a Marine general officer and a senior attorney, both with combat experience, to conduct an internal preliminary inquiry into the matter.

"Once the investigation and preliminary inquiry are complete and the facts have been determined, then the Marine Corps will take the appropriate next steps," Amos said. "We remain fully committed to upholding the Geneva Convention, the laws of war and our own core values."

"We are aware of the video. The hate in it does not represent the U.S. Marine Corps," said Col. Ricco Player, a spokesman for the Marines in Afghanistan's volatile Helmand province.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton expressed "total dismay at the story concerning our Marines who I have the highest respect and admiration for." She called the behavior "deplorable."

"It is absolutely inconsistent with American values, with the standards of behavior that we expect from our military personnel and the vast, vast majority of our military personnel, particularly our Marines, hold themselves to," she said. "Anyone found to have participated or known about it, having engaged in this kind of conduct, must be held fully accountable."

Afghan President Hamid Karzai called on the U.S. government to investigate the video and hand down the harshest punishment possible.

"The government of Afghanistan is deeply disturbed by a video that shows American soldiers desecrating dead bodies of three Afghans," according to a statement released by the presidential palace on behalf of Karzai.

"This act by American soldiers is simply inhuman and condemnable in the strongest possible terms."

A Taliban spokesman called the video "barbaric."

"And no religion that follows a holy text would accept such conduct. This inhuman act reveals their real face to the world," Taliban spokesman Qari Yousuf Ahmadi said via text message Thursday.

The U.S. Embassy in Kabul said in a statement Thursday it "strongly condemns" the actions in the video.

"Such actions are reprehensible, dishonor the sacrifices of our military and the American people and violate the core values of both our societies," the embassy said.

"Islam gives values and respect to every human being," regardless of which religion the individual follows, said Islamic scholar Mawlawi Enayatullah Baligh. "The value and respect is the same for an alive person and a dead body. Even the body of your enemy in the battleground is respectable in Islam."

The video surfaces at a critical time for relations among the United States, the Afghan government and the Taliban.

Last year, the United States outlined its plan to withdraw its troops from Afghanistan, beginning by pulling out 33,000 "surge" troops who had been deployed to help quell the violence by the end of 2012. The remaining 68,000 troops would be withdrawn by the end of 2014.

Meanwhile, the Taliban tentatively agreed in recent weeks to open an office in Qatar's capital city of Doha, a decision widely seen as an overture aimed at establishing an outside forum for political talks with NATO-led forces and the current Afghan administration, among others.

A senior Marine Corps official who has examined the video said Wednesday that the Marines are carrying 30-caliber sniper rifles and wearing helmets issued to members of Marine sniper teams. The helmets are designed with a shorter front and sides so that snipers can place rifles and scopes near their faces.

The official added that the desecration of a body by U.S. troops could be considered a potential war crime.

"We recently became aware of an inappropriate video on a public website that appears to involve members of our military," International Security Assistance Force spokesman Col. Gary Kolb said from Kabul. "We will not speculate on the details but will take all necessary actions to determine the facts."

"Regardless of the circumstances or who is in the video, this is egregious, disgusting behavior," said Department of Defense spokesman Capt. John Kirby. "It's hideous. It turned my stomach."

In a statement released Wednesday, the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations condemned the video.

"If verified as authentic, the video shows behavior that is totally unbecoming of American military personnel and that could ultimately endanger other soldiers and civilians," wrote CAIR National Executive Director Nihad Awad in a letter to Panetta.

"Any guilty parties must be punished to the full extent allowed by the Uniform Code of Military Justice and by relevant American laws."

[sue4u2]

The official added that the desecration of a body by U.S. troops could be considered a potential war crime.

If this was done by US Marines, no matter the circumstances..
enough said.
We would and should demand no less punishment if it were any other country.

[The_Pac_Mule]

"When a Marine does something good, no one notices. When a Marine does something bad, the whole world knows."

Ever since I've been in this is something that were always told. I'vr heard it from my drill instructors, my platoon sergeant, everyone. And they tell us so hopefully we dont go and do stupid stuff like this.

That beind said though, they're not in trouble because they did it. They're in trouble because they FILMED it, and put it on youtube. I am a Marine, I know were better than this, but honestly I don't have a huge issue with what they did. If I was there, I wouldn't partake in it. I wouldn't stop them either. Actually I take that back, I would stop the guy filming it. Because that's retarded. But no one understands the stress that we feel over there. Just try and imagine getting shot at by these guys day in and day out, by fucks who use women and children as body shields, and do a lot more sick and twisted shit than what the Marines did. Imagine you've lost 3 friends in the past week, and one just got his legs blown off an hour earlier.

I know this is probably gonna upset a lot of you guys, but I really honestly doesn't bother me that a group of Marines pissed on some dead bad guys. Was it unprofessional? Yes, but you have no idea what it's like until you've been there.

Ask anyone in the Marine Corps and they'll tell you the same thing. This sort of thing happens a lot actually. People have always just been smarter and don't broadcast it to the world gloating about it.

[Diemen]

Originally Posted by The_Pac_Mule

I am a Marine, I know were better than this, but honestly I don't have a huge issue with what they did. If I was there, I wouldn't partake in it. I wouldn't stop them either. Actually I take that back, I would stop the guy filming it.

...

This sort of thing happens a lot actually.

Do you actually hear yourself when you say this kind of thing? Or do they try to train the humanity right out of you as well?

[PhilsFan]

who were the dead and why were they killed? i find it interesting how we are outraged by urinating on dead bodies as opposed to the killings themselves. we do not seem to know who was killed and why, we just assume all military kills the right people.

[financeguy]

Originally Posted by PhilsFan

who were the dead and why were they killed? i find it interesting how we are outraged by urinating on dead bodies as opposed to the killings themselves. we do not seem to know who was killed and why, we just assume all military kills the right people.

Indeed.

[Moonlit_Angel]

I also agree. Excellent point, PhilsFan.

Regardless...yeah, war does fuck people up mentally, so unfortunately actions like this are to be expected. Doesn't make them any less disturbing or wrong or inhuman, though.

[deep]

no, it's inhumane to urinate on dead people
this is just like abu ghraib

[MrsSpringsteen]

Originally Posted by deep

no, it's inhumane to urinate on dead people
this is just like abu ghraib

I agree. I know that war is hell and I know what it does to people even though I've never been to war. Believe me, I know. But even considering that I can't comprehend the desire to do such a thing, sorry. They're already dead, the deed is already done. Best to just leave it at that and hold onto some of yourself in the process. I notice plenty when they do good things.

[financeguy]

Head found by hikers' dogs in Hollywood Hills - US news - Crime & courts - msnbc.com

Like something from a Bret Easton Ellis novel.

[corianderstem]

Definitely worse than the random feet that keep washing ashore along the northern Pacific coast. *shudder*

[Moonlit_Angel]

I hear these sorts of stories on TV all the time in those true crime shows, of people stumbling across body parts, if not full bodies, and I can't even begin to imagine how disturbing that experience would be. I'd have nightmares, I think.

[The_Pac_Mule]

This is pretty much the kind of response I expected. I'm sorry, but no matter how much you say you understand it, what they go through etc. because they've seen others go through it or whatever, no, You don't understand it, nor will you ever. Shit pisses me off a lot I'm sorry. Until you've been in a combat zone under fire, you won't be able to comprehend what it's like.

Do you actually hear yourself when you say this kind of thing? Or do they try to train the humanity right out of you as well?

Yes I heard myself and no they don't. I probably would say something, but there's not much I could have done to stop them.

They're already dead, the deed is already done. Best to just leave it at that and hold onto some of yourself in the process.

Do you think that's what was running through their head at the time? You and as of this moment I have the gift of being able to to think rationally and be able to come to that conclusion. Not so much after you kill the three bastards that have been trying to end your life for the past hour or so.

who were the dead and why were they killed? i find it interesting how we are outraged by urinating on dead bodies as opposed to the killings themselves. we do not seem to know who was killed and why, we just assume all military kills the right people.

Are you serious? For one, they said they were Taliban fighters, if you wanna doubt them though go right ahead, but do you honestly think if those were civilians no one wouldv'e found out? The media would have been all over that. Believe me.

From what I understand they were in a firefight with them that that lasted at least a half hour. (which feels like 8 hours by the way)

no, it's inhumane to urinate on dead people
this is just like abu ghraib

It is unhumane. But this is NOTHING like abu gharib.

[MrsSpringsteen]

I really have no interest in arguing about it, for me there's no justification for it. I just can't comprehend urinating on a dead person, someone you've killed. That's not something that anyone can justify to me rationally no matter what their experiences are that I haven't directly had, sorry.