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Old 10-11-2012, 01:13 PM   #501
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Using my Facebook feed as anecdotal evidence, I am noticing more and more misandrist comments lately, and it's starting to annoy me.

I detest when an entire group of people are painted with the same brush because of the misdeeds of a few.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:24 PM   #502
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Using my Facebook feed as anecdotal evidence, I am noticing more and more misandrist comments lately, and it's starting to annoy me.

I detest when an entire group of people are painted with the same brush because of the misdeeds of a few.
Me too. Whilst misogyny is inexcusable, it doesn't make it okay to generalise about men.

A woman here was raped and killed recently and I saw a bunch of posts like "all men are fucking assholes" and "if a man offered to walk me home, even with no strings attached, I would tell him to fuck off, who knows what he's thinking".
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I don't agree with painting any group with a broad brush. That would include Christians, and that's done here all the time. Just a thought.
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I don't agree with painting any group with a broad brush. That would include Christians, and that's done here all the time. Just a thought.
I'm assuming this is somewhat pointed in my direction, but I've never in my life painted Christians with any brush. There's a difference between thinking an antiquated ideology is way past its best before date and hating those who practice. My Nana is Christian. Some of the coolest fucking people on this site are religious. Some of the lamest are too
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Fuck.

Coquitlam girl who posted bullying video takes own life - The Globe and Mail
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I'm assuming this is somewhat pointed in my direction, but I've never in my life painted Christians with any brush. There's a difference between thinking an antiquated ideology is way past its best before date and hating those who practice. My Nana is Christian. Some of the coolest fucking people on this site are religious. Some of the lamest are too
Well you assume wrong. It was a general comment about the stereotyping and generalizing that goes on here and has in the past. Most people here (probably more like all) are guilty of it at one time for another. Semantics really don't matter, generalizing is generalizing.

Some of the lamest? Really? Lame (and cool) is in the eye of the beholder. I save my judgments about that for private conversations.
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Well you assume wrong. It was a general comment about the stereotyping and generalizing that goes on here and has in the past. Most people here (probably more like all) are guilty of it at one time for another. Semantics really don't matter, generalizing is generalizing.

Some of the lamest? Really? Lame (and cool) is in the eye of the beholder. I save my judgments about that for private conversations.
Well then I'll add that I've never seen anybody generalize about Christians here. Maybe you could link to an example?
Not sure why you latched on to my last sentence. It was pretty benign. Yes, some of the coolest and some of the lamest. The whole point was that there are people here I like and people here I don't, regardless of religion. How is that worth commenting on? Not sure what that has to do with private conversations
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you reap what you sow

we, as men, shouldn't complain about generalising statements in our direction
news items, like that 'rape factory' one, are too abundant to deny we still have a lot of growing to do

of course, the majority of us are not guilty of those actions
but instead of focussing on this, we should use that energy to try and rectify the issue
the issue being that still too many men seem to be unable to treat women as total equals
and what our part, however small, is in that mindset still existing

I know the entire "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem" line smells kinda bad by now
but there is a lot of truth in it too
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Very nice post, thanks for that
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you reap what you sow

we, as men, shouldn't complain about generalising statements in our direction
news items, like that 'rape factory' one, are too abundant to deny we still have a lot of growing to do

of course, the majority of us are not guilty of those actions
but instead of focussing on this, we should use that energy to try and rectify the issue
the issue being that still too many men seem to be unable to treat women as total equals
and what our part, however small, is in that mindset still existing

I know the entire "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem" line smells kinda bad by now
but there is a lot of truth in it too
You summed it up better than I did, Salome. Thank you.
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A bunch of white knight rhetoric that says next to nothing substantial, if you ask me. Please don't speak for 'us'
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I'm speaking for myself
and of course it's nothing substantial
it's my view on things
I'm not a politician or a spokesperson

but if what you get out of people reacting on 'rape factory' is that they unfairly brush all men the same way
then you have even less of value to say than I do
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.....we, as men...
.... we still have a lot of growing to do.....
.... we should use that energy.....
......I know the entire "if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem" line smells kinda bad by now
but there is a lot of truth in it too
Interesting way to speak for yourself

You're right about it being nothing substantial though

So had I first expressed outrage over the rape factory article, then made my point, it would be valid? It's like you're just writing words that you think sound right, but there's literally no intelligent thought behind them. And yes, if people's reactions to the rape factory is "what is it with men?", I have a serious problem with that. You should too instead of mindless pandering
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I have no one to pander to.
And I also don't care how much of a mindless idiot you think I am.

I do believe that women are entitled to think badly of the male gender in general, as the male gender in general have treated women badly for centuries.
More so than I care for someone's tender soul getting bruised because of a generalizing statement against men.
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More so than I care for someone's tender soul getting bruised because of a generalizing statement against men.
I think that's basically the argument that has been used for every historical instance of prejudice.
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I think in most historical cases someone feels or pretends to feel being treated badly instead of really being treated badly.

Just in case, when women start hunting down and murdering men in great numbers in an organized fashion, I might have to change my mind.
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Well then I'll add that I've never seen anybody generalize about Christians here. Maybe you could link to an example?
Not sure why you latched on to my last sentence. It was pretty benign. Yes, some of the coolest and some of the lamest. The whole point was that there are people here I like and people here I don't, regardless of religion. How is that worth commenting on? Not sure what that has to do with private conversations
I'm not going to sit here and search for examples. I've merely been around here long enough to see it, and plenty among "like minded" people too, and I've said something about it. Like Christians are homophobes, they hate ___. they think _____. Not at all qualified by the word some. Those kind of statements to me mean all, and we are all guilty of that type of thing. Each and every human being. I don't need or want to search for them, honestly don't have to justify it to you either .

I "latched on" to what you said, and I have the right to feel like it's worth commenting on. Because frankly you're constantly giving your opinion of people here all over this forum, and seem to feel that THAT is worth commenting on . And I'm sure plenty of people do that here, mostly in private though. Just don't get the need to constantly give such assessments, as if you're a higher judge and jury. And often be insulting in the process. Don't think getting the last word is that important. Some people I like here too, and others not so much. That's only natural, but once again I don't get the seeming need to beat it into the ground. You didn't say regardless of religion, in fact you specifically mentioned that.

Frankly it's insulting that you call what salome said "white knight pandering". I don't need or want anyone to pander to me, male or otherwise. I've been pandered to plenty, so I know it when I see it. He said that's HIS opinion, so because he "dares" to disagree with you you have to call his opinion pandering and yawn at him? Did he violate some guy code or something? I like what he said so I said so. He's not my white knight, don't need or want any of those- and I have a brain. The back and forth is tiresome and I have no interest in it. But I do have the right to an opinion.
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Do yourself a favour and put me back on ignore like you were told to do a while back. Your replies are consistently disproportionately off the handle. You've got a chip on your shoulder
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Ok judge and jury. I think yours are too, and I think you have a big chip on your shoulder. I'll put you back on ignore when I feel like it, no need for you to direct me to. Thanks so much anyway.

Don't think you're supposed to be commenting either on anything I have allegedly been told privately as far as putting you, or anyone else, on ignore.
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