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What the HELL?
__________________By NBC News staff PRAGUE, Okla. – An Oklahoma high school valedictorian who was denied her diploma because she used the world “hell” in her commencement speech doesn’t plan to apologize for her choice of words, her father says. David Nootbaar said he is furious that Prague High School is withholding his daughter Kaitlin's diploma because of her use of the word during the graduation speech in May. “She has worked so hard to stay at the top of her class and this is not right,” he said. “She earned that diploma. In four years she has never made a B. She got straight A’s and had a 4.0 the whole way through." School officials declined to comment. "This matter is confidential and we cannot publicly say anything about it," Prague schools Superintendent Rick Martin said in a statement to KFOR-TV in Oklahoma City. David Nootbaar said his daughter was inspired by the movie “The Twilight Saga: Eclipse" when she wrote the speech. “Her quote was, ‘When she first started school she wanted to be a nurse, then a veterinarian and now that she was getting closer to graduation, people would ask her, what do you want to do and she said ‘How the hell do I know? I’ve changed my mind so many times,’” he said. He said in the written script she gave to the school she wrote “heck,” but in the moment she said “hell” instead. During the ceremony, Nootbaar said the audience laughed and she finished her speech to warm applause. She didn’t know there was a problem, he said. But trouble surfaced when she went to school to pick up her graduation certificate last week, her father said. “We went to the office and asked for the diploma and the principal said ‘Your diploma is right here but you’re not getting it. Close the door we have a problem,'" Nootbaar said. He said the principal told Kaitlin she would have to write an apology letter before he would release the diploma. Kaitlin doesn’t plan on writing an apology letter because she doesn’t feel she did anything wrong, her father said. He said her family stands behind her decision. Kaitlin starts classes at Southwestern Oklahoma State University in a few days on a full scholarship. |
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Wow, really? Overreaction much, school?
__________________It's not like she cursed anyone out specifically or anything, she was making a joking remark. |
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Haha. Hm. You make a good point
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There's a thread floating around the archives somewhere about blasphemy laws, but I know there's not that much interest in the issue, so I'll just post the latest story to attract Western media attention here.
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The number of prominent Pakistani public figures who've gone on record criticizing this incident does suggest that this girl stands a better-than-average chance of getting charges dropped early, and it seems the international attention her story's received helped significantly with that. I do wish Western governments would be more consistently proactive about applying diplomatic pressure (and offering asylum) concerning Pakistani blasphemy cases in general--as it is, it seems that only cases involving Christians (about 12% of total cases, on average) ever make news here, but the fact is that the great majority of "blasphemy" defendants come from highly vulnerable social groups (by caste, tribe, subsect, combination thereof etc.), whether Muslim or not. Of course, the counter to that is that too much pressure risks feeding perceptions at the other end that "human rights concerns" are just another pretext for Western meddling and intervention, and worse, that local organizations expressing such concerns are therefore traitorous subversives. ![]() |
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I fully agree with you that these "blasphemy" accusations are bullshit coverups. I do think some people in countries where they have much tighter laws on that stuff do actually get genuinely offended by such displays, but yeah, no question that they'll use anything as an excuse to attack people.
I also agree that it's tough regarding support from the West on this issue. Certainly this girl has my support, and I hope everything works out for the best for her. And this reassures me, too: Quote:
I would also like to note as well that the next time I hear religious people in the States complain about being "persecuted" for their beliefs simply because someone dares to suggest our country's laws shouldn't be decided by one specific religion, they should think about stories like this. |
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I'm not disgusted with this, but definitely find this to be very weird.
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Whoa, talk about TMI! What kid wants to see pics of their parents' wedding night? Every kid's worst nightmare is to see their parents doing anything sexual. Also, I feel there is something narcissistic about this. |
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why the hell not
if this is where we are going ![]() why not have this picture of where we began ![]() ![]() ( sorry Pearl, I edited after looking at the article ) |
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Some of these people are already posting the photos on FB.
But yeah, videotaping their wedding night will definitely be next on the list. But if you want to photograph and film your wedding night, fine. But do it yourself and keep it between you and your spouse - not show your kids and allow a total stranger to do the photography or filming! |
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Ya think? People seem to be running out of new ways to overshare. They must spend hours thinking them up (not as much time left for sex..hmmm, quandary). Yeah, photos of the actual sex will probably be the next thing, the final frontier. Post them on Facebook too.
What do you do with those photos when the marriage falls apart? For me personally intimacy like that is just special, well it's supposed to be. And when you overshare it it just loses that. Not just talking about sexual intimacy either. If you spent all that time of the photos and sharing them, etc on the actual intimacy, it would probably be off the charts amazing. |
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Yes, because we need to have additional pressure on the day.
You must get married! You must have a perfect wedding! You must have mind-blowing sex on your wedding night! You must look fantastic in your morning-after picture! |
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Speaking of weddings, I had never heard of this tradition before this weekend. Is it a new thing?
Anyway, a very sad story: Quebec bride Maria Pantazopoulos drowned in ‘trash the dress’ photo shoot | Canada | News | National Post
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![]() I donated my dress after trying to sell it for 5 years. |
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marriage is a mockery now
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Sigh...so this just came up on Yahoo!.
Student shot at Md. high school; suspect held - Yahoo! News 'Cause we haven't had nearly enough of these sorts of stories lately. For the love of god, people, THIS NEEDS TO STOP. |
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Good god.
If the Taliban are involved...good to know the ten or so years we've spent dealing with them have been well spent. *Sighs again* |
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In regards to that "trendy" morning-after wedding shoot, turns out it is not a trend at all.
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Should've looked into the article more, but then again the content was shocking. Based on what HuffPo wrote here, it sounds like a press release for this one photographer that the media picked up as actual news. That, or sensationalism has ruined journalism once again. ![]() |
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Sixteen-year-old Olympic gold medalist Gabby Douglas is having a busy year, what with the gold medals and the Corn Flakes box and the interview with Oprah. But while most of the news regarding the bubbly teen is good, some of it remains negative. And in a piece by Buzz Bissinger for the October issue of Vanity Fair, Gabby again opens up about how she was treated while training at Excalibur Gymnastics in Virginia Beach. Once, she left her clothes by her locker, only to come back and find them gone — she had no shirt wear to leave the locker room, and "other gymnasts started laughing at her." Then there was, as previously discussed, the "she's our slave" comment. But, according to Bissinger:
__________________Even more painful was an incident several years ago at a party where Gabby says an Excalibur staff member told her she might want to consider reconstructive surgery on her nose because of its flatness. Some other gymnasts had teased Gabby about her appearance, and she found the nose comment "very hurtful." Excalibur President and CEO Gustavo Moure has denied that anyone in the gym was ever "knowingly involved in any type of bullying or racist treatment". |
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