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Old 03-20-2012, 05:34 PM   #21
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That would really piss me off. I'm more aware of what I say now, since I've got most of the office on Facebook, but there's a line.
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:38 PM   #22
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That article about password privacy and the student talked about employers demanding passwords. Makes me happy to be a relic and not be on Facebook.

That will probably become standard, unless the law can overturn it.
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Old 03-20-2012, 05:45 PM   #23
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That would really piss me off. I'm more aware of what I say now, since I've got most of the office on Facebook, but there's a line.
I agree Cobbler. I have many coworkers and families that I work with on FB, so I watch what I say, and I have my friends divided into groups so that I can control who sees what (and who has to put up with my U2 ramblings. )

I would never have a problem with my employer seeing my page, but to demand my password, which would give them access to private emails and such, goes too far, IMO.
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:28 PM   #24
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I'll be sure to deactivate my Facebook when I have job interviews lined up (it's really easy to reactivate it).
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I don't see any justification for this.
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Old 03-20-2012, 10:32 PM   #26
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If you read the article, the guy wanted to work for a lobbying firm. If he is bashing the firm or industry all over social networks, than why should they not have a right to know. No one has to to have a FB page. And nothing on FB is really provate. Post a racist joke, or some other such thing. And sure enough one of your friends, or friends of friends will copy it and pass it on.
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If you read the article, the guy wanted to work for a lobbying firm. If he is bashing the firm or industry all over social networks, than why should they not have a right to know. No one has to to have a FB page. And nothing on FB is really provate. Post a racist joke, or some other such thing. And sure enough one of your friends, or friends of friends will copy it and pass it on.
But your messages ARE private.
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I don't believe that. What guarantee do you have?
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Old 03-20-2012, 11:26 PM   #29
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I'm not sure what you mean. Do you have a Facebook? There is a place where you can post things for everyone (if your page is public), or at least your friends (if your page is private). And then there is a chat and message feature which only goes between you and a person you are chatting with. The latter is not the business of your employer, but would be accessible if they were to have your password.
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Old 03-21-2012, 03:56 AM   #30
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Yes, fine for an employer to be interested in what you are blasting out publicly or semi-publicly, especially if it's a more sensitive business/industry/role, but asking for passwords and access to the private side of facebook is exactly the same as asking for your gmail password or something, ie, fuck off, absolutely no reason why that would be necessary and its certainly not acceptable.
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I'm not sure what you mean. Do you have a Facebook? There is a place where you can post things for everyone (if your page is public), or at least your friends (if your page is private). And then there is a chat and message feature which only goes between you and a person you are chatting with. The latter is not the business of your employer, but would be accessible if they were to have your password.
risky though - do you remember not so long ago, maybe a year or so ago, there was a technical glitch which caused a whole load of chat conversations to actually go public so everyone could see! that caused a WHOLE LOAD of problems lol

and yeah totally unacceptable for anyone to demand your password, no chance!
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if a company's going to demand my facebook password, i don't want to work for them. if they're going to violate this right of privacy, they're clearly not a good company to work for in the first place and i'd be afraid as to what other rights they'd trample on. this is the time when laws need to start getting put in place guaranteeing us some sort of privacy online, where employers and prospective employers can't just start demanding passwords or demanding we log in and let them snoop through our stuff. i've never badmouthed a company i've worked for on facebook at any point. not on a status, not even in a private message to someone else. but if an employer can't ascertain that i'm mature and trustworthy, too bad. trust works both ways and if they want me to trust them, they also need to trust me.
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Excellent post, Khanada .
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The notification-based society fueled by social networks is a terrible productivity suck.

It's interesting that our society has changed from not having enough information about things we care about to having much too much information about these things--and the need to limit our intake by force.

I check personal email once a day.

I don't respond to regular email for a day or two (or three) so that I prevent the expectation of instant reply for my personal contacts.

I get one email a day from a service that summarizes my social network notifications.

I have maybe two or three apps on my smartphone that send me notifications, and only for critical updates.

That's it.
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How often do you log in here?
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Thinking about it, I think if someone wanted to challenge this, it would be illegal. Why? Because your Facebook profile has a ton of information that companies are not allowed to ask about, sexual orientation, religious affiliation, and pregnancy status.
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Zuckerberg is not a prime example of how a successful entrepreneur should act like, moreover... to dress like.
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If you read the article, the guy wanted to work for a lobbying firm. If he is bashing the firm or industry all over social networks, than why should they not have a right to know. No one has to to have a FB page. And nothing on FB is really provate. Post a racist joke, or some other such thing. And sure enough one of your friends, or friends of friends will copy it and pass it on.
If one posts a racist joke or some other such thing and another friend shares, they deserve the bullshit (if any) that they get. Deep, if you're gonna have a dialogue about Facebook, then I think you're gonna have to bite the bullet and register. Otherwise you just sound like an outsider who has no idea what they're talking about. Facebook definitely relies on common sense. If one exhibits it, they won't have a problem. If they don't, then things can definitely get interesting.
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Facebook ruined this guys life, let's hope so.

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Deep, if you're gonna have a dialogue about Facebook, then I think you're gonna have to bite the bullet and register. Otherwise you just sound like an outsider who has no idea what they're talking about.



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well, not my life, I don't social network
stating that I don't social network does not mean I am not registered.
I have been using it for some time. I review a few applications a year. Sometimes I go to Facebook (without asking for passwords) it is surprising how much you can learn about someone from FB. I will admit FB has influenced me, somewhat, on approving or turning down applicants.


I registered early on, to check it out.



One account in my dog's name (tied to her yahoo email account) has about 20 friends, they are mostly family, nieces and nephews, siblings and a couple of long time friends. I find it a bit useful to keep updated with some of the family happenings. Though I get way too much junk or silly stuff. But then again what do you expect from 12, 13 year old girls? I never really post anything myself. If I want to talk to someone. I will email or call.

I have used this account to contact people I do not know to tell them I found their wallet, driver's license or got a piece of mail or package that belongs to them send to my address by mistake. FB is good for that.

The other account I have is my name, tied to my gmail account. That account has one friend, my dog, and about 40 friend requests that have been ignored. If they look at my account, they will see it is mostly not complete, has no postings and the only one friend that has a picture of a dog. They should get that I am not an active FBer.

with the 2 accounts, I have been able to see how FB works. What friending allows others to see, etc. Except, Zuckerman and FB can change that anytime they want, they have and will do that to suit themselves and their interests, not mine or yours.

And unlike an email the is tied to your internet provider, that you are paying for, you have no rights and or expectations of privacy.

As a gmail user, I realize that I am at the mercy of Google, I always write my emails, with the thought that others can see them, so I don't write anything that would embarrass or upset me too much if it was forwarded. If I want to have a confidential conversation I do that on the phone or in person.
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