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Was the soda a Dr. Pooper?
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It was Grape, I'm afraid.
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http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wo...ghts-on-ebola/
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But that's the problem, they are just your thoughts and ideas, based on what? Gut feeling? Because your "beliefs" clash with the science and facts. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference |
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This has never happened yet. Where are your facts of science regarding the matter? Show me. Now. You can't at this point because its all opinion and belief. Don't give me me this bull shit about science and facts Beavis because nobody knows and I'm just on the other side of the argument from you. |
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No, what science tells us at this point is that there are only a few ways to catch this virus; direct contact with fluids. You took your opinion a leap forward saying it's "not hard at all" to catch but with nothing to back it up. You also say the nurse followed all protocol, but that is not fact. You said "hundreds of thousands", based on absolutely nothing. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference |
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In terms of contracting this virus... Ebola is present in: Blood, urine, tears, sweat, saliva, semen (for up to 3 months after contraction), mucus, and feces. Yes, it is contracted by direct contact through, open soars, the eyes, the nose, the mouth and throat, and reproductive organs. The virus can also stay alive for hours in a dry state but if left in a wet state can survive for days. If this isn't an easy to contract virus then I have no fucking clue what easy means... Air born? Then fact: if it is present in saliva or mucus then that means that there is an element of being able to contract it via the air. All you need to do is touch something like a counter top and you can get it. Yes it is more difficult to contract then some other viruses but its much easier than you might think. I have no idea what the nurse did but I have a feeling that there was a lot of "protocol" broken by many people as many people had no fucking clue as to what they were doing and not to their fault but just a system that is not fully prepared to handle these situations. Look... do I think this is going to wipe out a third of the population like the plague? No, I don't. Is it going to be as deadly as the Spanish Flu? No, I don't but I do believe that the world wide mortality rate will be quite high and will be a small glimpse into what is right around the corner if we continue to fuck up our planet like we have over the past 3 to 4 decades. |
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The numbers from the CDC and this most recent outbreak are staggering compared to previous out breaks.
Outbreaks Chronology: Ebola Virus Disease | Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC |
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![]() ORIGINAL ARTICLE - New England Journal of Medicine Ebola Virus Disease in West Africa — The First 9 Months of the Epidemic and Forward Projections WHO Ebola Response Team September 23, 2014DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa1411100 BACKGROUND On March 23, 2014, the World Health Organization (WHO) was notified of an outbreak of Ebola virus disease (EVD) in Guinea. On August 8, the WHO declared the epidemic to be a “public health emergency of international concern.” Full Text of Background... METHODS By September 14, 2014, a total of 4507 probable and confirmed cases, including 2296 deaths from EVD (Zaire species) had been reported from five countries in West Africa — Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, Senegal, and Sierra Leone. We analyzed a detailed subset of data on 3343 confirmed and 667 probable Ebola cases collected in Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, and Sierra Leone as of September 14. Full Text of Methods... RESULTS The majority of patients are 15 to 44 years of age (49.9% male), and we estimate that the case fatality rate is 70.8% (95% confidence interval [CI], 69 to 73) among persons with known clinical outcome of infection. The course of infection, including signs and symptoms, incubation period (11.4 days), and serial interval (15.3 days), is similar to that reported in previous outbreaks of EVD. On the basis of the initial periods of exponential growth, the estimated basic reproduction numbers (R0 ) are 1.71 (95% CI, 1.44 to 2.01) for Guinea, 1.83 (95% CI, 1.72 to 1.94) for Liberia, and 2.02 (95% CI, 1.79 to 2.26) for Sierra Leone. The estimated current reproduction numbers (R) are 1.81 (95% CI, 1.60 to 2.03) for Guinea, 1.51 (95% CI, 1.41 to 1.60) for Liberia, and 1.38 (95% CI, 1.27 to 1.51) for Sierra Leone; the corresponding doubling times are 15.7 days (95% CI, 12.9 to 20.3) for Guinea, 23.6 days (95% CI, 20.2 to 28.2) for Liberia, and 30.2 days (95% CI, 23.6 to 42.3) for Sierra Leone. Assuming no change in the control measures for this epidemic, by November 2, 2014, the cumulative reported numbers of confirmed and probable cases are predicted to be 5740 in Guinea, 9890 in Liberia, and 5000 in Sierra Leone, exceeding 20,000 in total. Full Text of Results... CONCLUSIONS These data indicate that without drastic improvements in control measures, the numbers of cases of and deaths from EVD are expected to continue increasing from hundreds to thousands per week in the coming months. |
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wow, even the World Health Organization is drinking the Poop kool-aid
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Key part of that article is the phrase "in West Africa." This is not a threat to the US other than a few isolated cases. There will probably be more European cases simply because of Europe's proximity to Africa. But there will be 10s of cases in the US and Europe, not hundreds of thousands. Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference |
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Your 3 months numbers seems to be off according to most reputable sources, it's closer to 7 weeks. Can you post a source citing your info regarding the survival rate outside the body in "dry" state vs "wet" state? Sent from my iPhone using U2 Interference |
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Q&As on Transmission | Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC "How long does Ebola live outside the body? Ebola is killed with hospital-grade disinfectants (such as household bleach). Ebola on dried on surfaces such as doorknobs and countertops can survive for several hours; however, virus in body fluids (such as blood) can survive up to several days at room temperature." "If someone survives Ebola, can he or she still spread the virus? Once someone recovers from Ebola, they can no longer spread the virus. However, Ebola virus has been found in semen for up to 3 months. People who recover from Ebola are advised to abstain from sex or use condoms for 3 months." |
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So... No, I don't think there will be hundreds thousands in the U.S. but I do believe that hundreds of thousands will become infected and/or die. May be not in the pandemic sense but Africa may go up in flames in front of our eyes. But I also think if not controlled right you will see hundreds/potentially thousands infected in North America because all hospitals are not equipped to handle this... outside of the 4 hospitals (Montana, Nebraska, Maryland, and Georgia) in the U.S. that are. |
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