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Old 06-20-2013, 03:20 PM   #141
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And honestly Jive, get over it already. My comment was not man hating. My comment is noting the fact that men often have an easier time getting listened to by strangers, which they are able to use for good.
Get over it? You're projecting a little, my dear. I literally haven't read a single post by you in which you haven't, either directly or indirectly, implied that men are a problem. Sure, it's appropriate, if not misguided, behaviour in the feminism thread, but here you've somehow brought in cat calling and people not being respected because they're women and in the discotheque thread, you pretty much implied that the guy might be a date rapist. You've got a massive chip on your shoulder. It's tiresome
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Old 06-20-2013, 04:46 PM   #142
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Your issue with her speaking out was that you thought it was dangerous to do so on a public New York train.

My issue is that she told these women in public that her children are going to grow up to be delinquents. IMO, totally out of line.

I grew up in a home that used spanking as a punishment. I'm not out abusing people, starting trash can fires, robbing banks or anything like that.

From what you said, they were swatting them, yes? It sounds like they were going overboard with it, but, I mean...I'm speaking from my own upbringing here, obviously.
I don't think what she said was totally out of line. Spanking and swatting their arms and backs at home is one thing, but doing so in public is another. Yes, those mothers did say they were raised that way, but to physically punish a kid in public like that was inexcusable. That doesn't necessarily mean that the kids will be delinquents when they grow older, but who's to say they'll be mentally and emotionally healthy?

I was spanked growing up too, and I'm not a delinquent either. I know there's a big debate on whether spanking is damaging or not (hence this thread), but I think that should be a last resort in disciplining young kids. And should never take place in public, because not only did you physically hurt your kid, you also mortified them in front of strangers.
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Old 06-20-2013, 05:20 PM   #143
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i see a lot of verbal abuse, mothers screaming at children to SHUT THE FUCK UP or to GET YOUR FUCKING ASS OVER HERE.

really ineffective with a 3 year old.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:41 PM   #144
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i see a lot of verbal abuse, mothers screaming at children to SHUT THE FUCK UP or to GET YOUR FUCKING ASS OVER HERE.

really ineffective with a 3 year old.
How about seeing a mother tell her kid, "Sometimes I wish I never had you"?

Proof that some parents should never had even considered having kids.
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:09 PM   #145
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this public vs. private punishment thing is odd to me. wouldn't that confuse the child more? my parents discipline me the same way no matter where we were. i wasn't spanked though, i was given time outs and stuff. i realise though that everyone is different.

i quickly caught on that being bad = punishment = bad, while being good = no punishment. so i never got grounded or sent to my room without dinner. but that's just because i was a goody two shoes. i know not every kid who gets spanked or grounded a lot is some problem child, nor does it mean kids who are never disciplined are perfect. now i don't know what point i'm trying to make.
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Old 06-21-2013, 06:33 AM   #146
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