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Democracy simply doesn't work
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"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard Ian McCulloch the U2 fan: "Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat." "And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth." U2gigs: The most comprehensive U2 setlist database! Gig pictures | Blog |
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man i didn't want to make you sad so I'll comment on here.
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It's a thread on something not in America. Of course it's going to sink without a trace on FYM these days.
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"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard Ian McCulloch the U2 fan: "Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat." "And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth." U2gigs: The most comprehensive U2 setlist database! Gig pictures | Blog |
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also, nobody made thread about Panama paper, wtf. |
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Boaty McFuckface.
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We could have a thread about our new paper currency update... drumroll puleeze: they put a slightly older-looking portrait of the Queen on it, in place of the one they used to have. And added some colourful bead things.
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Actually our paper money is relatively non-partisan in its imagery, when you think about it. No bills with John Curtin or Menzies on them, even though, in a different country, such a thing might have come about quite naturally.
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That genuinely surprised me. But I guess we'd have all posted "huh, yeah, we all suspected that" and not had much real discussion.
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And the whole drama about the five dollarydoo note is such a storm in a teacup. The thing doesn't even look that bad when you see an actual photo of the real thing rather than that strange scan with the transparent parts on a blue background.
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"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard Ian McCulloch the U2 fan: "Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat." "And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth." U2gigs: The most comprehensive U2 setlist database! Gig pictures | Blog |
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Deakin University, sure. That's about as close as you'd find, and it's from so early in the history of the commonwealth, 'founding fathers' dreamtime as it were. |
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Can you even imagine working at a Menzies University anyway. It'd be a fucking hellhole of IPA stooges trying to tell you that Menzies would've wanted this or that, despite the fact his conception of liberalism and their arse-backwards neoliberalism are two different beasts.
But by god do they need that cult of Menzies because otherwise they've got nothing other than a graven image of John Howard, and that's worth about $2.50.
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"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard Ian McCulloch the U2 fan: "Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat." "And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth." U2gigs: The most comprehensive U2 setlist database! Gig pictures | Blog |
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don't get me started on this weird conversation about 20 dollar bill
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The Liberal Party doesn't do grand elder statesmen. Malcolm Fraser left the reservation (or they left him), Menzies himself quietly ended up a DLP man, Gorton they pretty much forgot he was still alive until 2001 or something, McMahon, well, whatever. All they've got is John Howard and even he must grit his teeth when he shares a stage with freaks like Tony Abbott. |
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All that said, I gather that there is something (a website, probably not an actual building) called Menzies House, which despite the genial sounding name - you almost expect Dame Pattie to drop by with scones and crustless sandwiches after tennis - is pretty much what you described, a hellhole of pale, sicklied IPA stooges leafing through their tomes of Ayn Rand and Friedrich von Hayek.
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The whole Fraser thing remains unbelievable. Could you imagine any prominent Liberal of today's generation openly campaigning for a Green?
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"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard Ian McCulloch the U2 fan: "Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat." "And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth." U2gigs: The most comprehensive U2 setlist database! Gig pictures | Blog |
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Funny topic for a Boaty McBoatface thread, this.
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"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard Ian McCulloch the U2 fan: "Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat." "And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth." U2gigs: The most comprehensive U2 setlist database! Gig pictures | Blog |
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It is rather.
What's even funnier is that I believe Fraser when he suggested that he remained what he was. He wasn't a lefty, he was actually a (liberal-ish) conservative. He was just out of step with the new breed. As will we all be, at some point. |
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I think he at least fudged the truth there. Would he have opposed Medicare now? No. What did his government abolish? The first go at Medicare.
But in broad terms, yes, the party left him rather than the other way around. Hewson was probably the last Liberal leader with more than just a passing affinity for the Fraser era - and to think the election he lost was a mere ten years after Fraser blew it against oh-shit-not-Bill-Hayden (surely the ultimate political blunder, and not possible today [look it up, non-Australians]).
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"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard Ian McCulloch the U2 fan: "Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat." "And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth." U2gigs: The most comprehensive U2 setlist database! Gig pictures | Blog |
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Yairs... it'd be interesting to inter his corpse and quiz him on Medicare (my guess, all conservatives were reliably opposed to anything like it back then, and he probably quietly changed his tune substantially in the years since).
Actually Hewson was really the first flush of the full-blown zealot wing of the Liberal Party. I know, I know, it doesn't look that way. He's socially liberal enough. But his economic plan straight out of Reagan/Thatcher central casting, his US-style razzamataz like some creepy US pentecostal preacher... oh yeah, Hewson was the real deal. |
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Fair point re: Hewson. I think even he has stepped back from some of the positions he advanced in 1993 - you can tell he thinks Abbott & Friends are complete morons. And even in 1993 I'm not sure he was the most hardcore of the bunch.
But it is easy to possess a nostalgic glow for him because he had Actual Policy and tried to defeat Keating in our last election to go much deeper than your average soundbyte.
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"Mediocrity is never so dangerous as when it is dressed up as sincerity." - Søren Kierkegaard Ian McCulloch the U2 fan: "Who buys U2 records anyway? It's just music for plumbers and bricklayers. Bono, what a slob. You'd think with all that climbing about he does, he'd look real fit and that. But he's real fat, y'know. Reminds me of a soddin' mountain goat." "And as for Bono, he needs a colostomy bag for his mouth." U2gigs: The most comprehensive U2 setlist database! Gig pictures | Blog |
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1993 was an election for the ages in some respects. Hewson's failing was he didn't quite realise what showbiz looks like. Against some of these latter day Labor leaders, he'd have won, and won comfortably.
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