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Old 08-29-2013, 09:24 PM   #141
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I mean, I get that I'm still insulting him, but I'm genuinely confused as to what he was disagreeing with there.
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Old 08-30-2013, 03:59 AM   #142
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I mean, I get that I'm still insulting him, but I'm genuinely confused as to what he was disagreeing with there.
You are insulting me but confused as to why? No wonder this country is in trouble. But no problem guy. A Black female friend visited ur town two years back and told me that Philly has the rudest people she met yet. Really unfriendly. I know you are really intelligent so I was just curious as to what race commits the most homicides in ur town? Honest discussion right? Is is white people? Hispanics? Blacks? You only have a 33% guess but I'm sure you can get it right. Good luck.
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Old 08-30-2013, 04:09 AM   #143
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Why do you have to keep emphasizing on someon's skin colour with your rethoric? Why does it matter so much to you if you're against racism so much? That's kinda paradoxal you know..
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Old 08-30-2013, 04:16 AM   #144
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Why do you have to keep emphasizing on someon's skin colour with your rethoric? Why does it matter so much to you if you're against racism so much? That's kinda paradoxal you know..
What rhetoric? It matters because I am against it and secondly NOBODY here wants to have an honest conversation about it. Not paradoxal at all. It seems most here are against the truth.
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What makes you think nobody wants to have an honest convo about it? It's just peculiar that when your'e against racism, you keep discerning between races.
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What makes you think nobody wants to have an honest convo about it? It's just peculiar that when your'e against racism, you keep discerning between races.
I'm definitely against racism, even dating black gf. Maybe cause I live in Chicago, also know as Chiraq, and being a cop is that I see all the crime / homicides on a daily basis. And at least here it's about 80% Blacks doing the killing and most of the crime. Chicago supposedly has toughest gun laws in country but most get probation even after they get arrested with gun for third time. There's no punishment here in Illinois.
I guess i discern between race because of where I live. Whites aren't robbing people. Blacks are now robbing all the rich white people in the heart of downtown Chicago. It's been going on for years but now the media finally figured it out.
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I'm definitely against racism, even dating black gf. Maybe cause I live in Chicago, also know as Chiraq, and being a cop is that I see all the crime / homicides on a daily basis. And at least here it's about 80% Blacks doing the killing and most of the crime. Chicago supposedly has toughest gun laws in country but most get probation even after they get arrested with gun for third time. There's no punishment here in Illinois.
I guess i discern between race because of where I live. Whites aren't robbing people. Blacks are now robbing all the rich white people in the heart of downtown Chicago. It's been going on for years but now the media finally figured it out.
Does your black girlfriend mind that you just look at skin color and stop there? More importantly, does she mind that you have a wife and kid?

What are the other breakdowns? Sex, age, education? How many are Chicago lumberjacks?

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Tim... There are plenty of valid race related issues that this country needs to have an open, honest discussion about... racism, poverty, the disproportionate ratio of gun violence in the black community, white guilt, media portrayal, glass ceilings, double standards, the generational effect of slavery, reparations, etc etc etc.

But when you simply take a broad brush and paint an entire ethnicity as one, you come off as a bigoted fool.

You can make a good point... Like the media painting George Zimmerman as a white man, ignoring his mixed ethnicity, and shaping the discussion as one about race, often through manipulative means...

But then you go and do the same thing by lumping every person of color in to the same boat... which makes you simply come off as the token racist, bitter white guy... and even the points you make that are worth discussing get lost in a sea of rhetoric.

Cut that shit out, and then maybe people might listen to you.

Maybe.

But as long as your posts continue to insinuate that the color of one's skin alone has anything to do with any of the issues you'd like to discuss, nobody will take you serious.
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I'm definitely against racism, even dating black gf. Maybe cause I live in Chicago, also know as Chiraq, and being a cop is that I see all the crime / homicides on a daily basis. And at least here it's about 80% Blacks doing the killing and most of the crime. Chicago supposedly has toughest gun laws in country but most get probation even after they get arrested with gun for third time. There's no punishment here in Illinois.
I guess i discern between race because of where I live. Whites aren't robbing people. Blacks are now robbing all the rich white people in the heart of downtown Chicago. It's been going on for years but now the media finally figured it out.
Is Oprah committing these crimes? Derrick Rose? Obama? No? Oh... I thought it was simply a race thing.

Perhaps, and call me crazy, but perhaps there are some deep rooted societal issues at play here as well that have zero to do with one's skin color.
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I don't see how having a black girlfriend makes your view less, yeah I realise the pun, black and white.

It doesn't change the way you post things on here. With everything you clearly discern between black and white people. Why?
People commit crimes. Why do we need to break down what ethnicity they are? It's really not the point. There's plenty of whites robbing people. Maybe not in your city, which I doubt on its own, but there are plenty of white assholes around. Should we emphasize that too then?

Some people are just assholes. It doesn't matter what colour their skin is. They're assholes.
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But in the US, African Americans do commit more violent crimes per capita than other races. Does that have anything at all to blacks being somehow predisposed to commit crimes more than other races? Absolutely 100% not. In the US, African Americans have ended up, generally, in a worse economic position than just about everyone else. Crime and poverty correlate very strongly. That's the real tragedy here: a race of people ended up getting the economic shaft, and the crime that comes along with that is a side effect. It's awful.
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That's the real tragedy here: a race of people ended up getting the economic shaft, and the crime that comes along with that is a side effect. It's awful.
The United States has spent the best part of 50 years trying to erase this injustice. While there's been some progress, it hasn't nearly been enough.

Now, the African-American family structure is in shambles. Without it, it may take longer than we hoped before economic equality is reached.
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It's in shambles mainly due to "the war on drugs."
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It's in shambles mainly due to "the war on drugs."
I'm sure it's not the only culprit, but it certainly didn't help.
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Does your black girlfriend mind that you just look at skin color and stop there? More importantly, does she mind that you have a wife and kid?

What are the other breakdowns? Sex, age, education? How many are Chicago lumberjacks?

1st rule of being a good alter/troll, keep your narrative straight. You can't keep pushing for an "honest" discussion when you're a well documented liar.
Ya. Lumberjack was a joke. As for wife, never had one.
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But when you simply take a broad brush and paint an entire ethnicity as one, you come off as a bigoted fool..
I could care less about Zimmerman. He's more white than white.

I never painted a whole ethnicity as one. But in Chicago where 80% of shootings and murders and robberies are committed by black people, do you have any suggestions on how to stop this. Am I really painting a broad brush or telling the truth? Come on be honest.

I mean Rev Jesse and Pres Obama are from here. They talk a good game but have no answer. Just wondering if you do? Is money the answer? They spent billions on education and the high school graduation rate has discreased.

You say they are poor but every house has a big screen LED TV. They are on section 8 pay $100 on a $1,500 rent. They own a $500 dollar car with $2,500 worth of rims. Do you see this or live in the burbs unaware of it?
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Is Oprah committing these crimes? Derrick Rose? Obama? No? Oh... I thought it was simply a race thing.

Perhaps, and call me crazy, but perhaps there are some deep rooted societal issues at play here as well that have zero to do with one's skin color.
Deep societal issues? Yes it's called Democrats giving women hundreds of dollars per kid. There is no family values. No father around. Watch Maury. Democrats giving a gang banger SSI cause he was shot in his leg. 20 yr old Gangster Disciple collecting $800 a month because he was shot in the leg two yrs ago. That's you're parents Social Security benifits going to him.
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I don't see how having a black girlfriend makes your view less, yeah I realise the pun, black and white.

It doesn't change the way you post things on here. With everything you clearly discern between black and white people. Why?
People commit crimes. Why do we need to break down what ethnicity they are? It's really not the point. There's plenty of whites robbing people. Maybe not in your city, which I doubt on its own, but there are plenty of white assholes around. Should we emphasize that too then?

Some people are just assholes. It doesn't matter what colour their skin is. They're assholes.
Yes there are plenty of white assholes around. They tend to live in other states where they serve time for crimes. In Chicago, they give probation, then double probation, then home monitoring, then two years and they serve six months. Then they sexually assault a woman and get six yrs and our Governor lets him out after two yrs. Sad.
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But in the US, African Americans do commit more violent crimes per capita than other races. Does that have anything at all to blacks being somehow predisposed to commit crimes more than other races? Absolutely 100% not. In the US, African Americans have ended up, generally, in a worse economic position than just about everyone else. Crime and poverty correlate very strongly. That's the real tragedy here: a race of people ended up getting the economic shaft, and the crime that comes along with that is a side effect. It's awful.
Did the mass Irish immigration at the beginning of the last century lead to Irish people killing each other? They were looked upon as a step above the black man. The nigger of Europe. They weren't slaves but were treated almost as such.

You say blacks commit more violent crimes per capita than any other race. You say they are in a worse economic position than everyone else. Yet there are more white poor people in this country. They aren't close to committing the same violent crimes as blacks.

I say that you are 100% wrong. Blacks are predisposed to commit more crimes than other races. Just look at the stats.
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I say that you are 100% wrong. Blacks are predisposed to commit more crimes than other races. Just look at the stats.
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