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Old 07-27-2013, 01:33 PM   #21
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If you countenance a boycott of Russia over this why not Saudi Arabia or Pakistan over intolerance of homosexuals? Or at least over their intolerance of women? China over it's awful human rights record? The US over the questionable legality of drones (ignoring how morally absurd they are)? South Africa is a pretty poor place to be gay in as well. Ireland's shitty abortion laws?

Boycott's all sound ethically quite exciting but unless you are actually willing to go the full mile and apply the same moral reasoning to all states then it's a bit pointless and will only make you look like a hypocrite.
Exactly.
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If you countenance a boycott of Russia over this why not Saudi Arabia or Pakistan over intolerance of homosexuals? Or at least over their intolerance of women? China over it's awful human rights record? The US over the questionable legality of drones (ignoring how morally absurd they are)? South Africa is a pretty poor place to be gay in as well. Ireland's shitty abortion laws?

Boycott's all sound ethically quite exciting but unless you are actually willing to go the full mile and apply the same moral reasoning to all states then it's a bit pointless and will only make you look like a hypocrite.


Straying a little off topic: I still have a hard time comprehending people's issue with drones. I think you're a good candidate to articulate that for me
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I'm not surprised. That whole thing was an embarrassment.
sucks to get lumped in with a bunch of yahoos in your country acting the fool
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I don't know how you guys felt about it there, but everyone else in the world was laughing at you
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sucks to get lumped in with a bunch of yahoos in your country acting the fool
That's what amuses me so much about "You ignorant Americans" talk. Or any generalization talk. "Everyone else in the world was laughing at you". Nobody was laughing at me, I wasn't doing it.
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Old 07-27-2013, 03:14 PM   #25
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That's what amuses me so much about "You ignorant Americans" talk. Or any generalization talk. "Everyone else in the world was laughing at you". Nobody was laughing at me, I wasn't doing it.
Everyone was laughing at your country and you by extension. "dumb Americans" not "dumb some Americans".

People make generalization about every country. It isn't new

lol ahsley is a dumb american
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Thus any generalization talk.
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Old 07-27-2013, 03:48 PM   #27
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Why don't you go eat some freedom fries?
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Well, I guess it's a good thing no one boycotted anything from South Afica in the 1980s.
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Why don't you go eat some freedom fries?
I'd recommend the plantation fries
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Well, I guess it's a good thing no one boycotted anything from South Afica in the 1980s.
South Africa became a pariah state, with it's only ally being Israel

what can come from this Vodka boycott?

yes boycotts can be effective
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Well, I guess it's a good thing no one boycotted anything from South Afica in the 1980s.
Maybe someone can come up with something more thoughtful than "Let's boycott a Russian sounding vodka"
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Maybe someone can come up with something more thoughtful than "Let's boycott a Russian sounding vodka"

It's better than "lets boycott Russian caviar."
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Old 07-27-2013, 04:51 PM   #34
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I think I already boycott Russian caviar...
and all other kinds of caviar
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I boycott everything Russian already.

Except for Maria Sharapova.
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what can come from this Vodka boycott?
Probably more gay-bashing in Russia...

If Stoli itself was condoning this government's treatment of gays - or systematically mistreated gays within it's own company, I could understand the boycott.

Irvine - I understand the need to do something - to make a difference over there. I'm not sure what the answer is, I just don't think this is it.
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Let's boycott the Brooklyn Nets.
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Boycotting products, movies, etc....sure, fine.

Boycotting the Olympics....please, no. It's disastrous for those that have *nothing* to do with it. Also there are sports that have been controlled almost entirely by politics (gymnastics, for example) until only pretty recently and we've had enough of that. I think boycotting the Olympics is bassackwards. The point of the Olympics is coming together for sport regardless of the political situation and again, only punishes (destroys, really) athletes.
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They go straight to my hips
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Well, I guess it's a good thing no one boycotted anything from South Afica in the 1980s.
That deprived Test cricket of so much.
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