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This is what I find so infuriating. Thousands gather and they know so little specifics, trust me if this was McCain you wouldn't be out there.
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Nice touch with the revolutionary era costumes and appeals to liberty and all that, but surely the original revolt was 'no taxation without representation'. Note that second part, it is important.
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I am not sure that is a fair accusation. There were plenty of people against Bush 1's spending and running up of the deficit. These people today remind me (in some ways ) of the Perot supporters. Quote:
Many countries have had economic collapses in the last 20- 30 years. All through the 80s and 90s it seemed all I heard about was the the money supply. M1 and M2. I can't remember when I have heard anyone mention anything about our rapidly growing money supply. So if we had the giant collapse?? Would it be better if we all started from ground zero again. Two or three years from now, if we see significant inflation and problems paying the National debt. These people will be able to say they warned us. |
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I drove bye a gathering after work. Just down the street from my apt. While I was sitting at the light I wrote on a notepad, "where were you before Bush's trillion $ war?" When I came back from the grocery store, I had written "where were you last year?. They booed me that time. I applauded. ![]() also, I got paid today, there was $18.00 difference in federal income tax withheld and $1 more in state taken out. wtf, why a dollar? |
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From a US point of view, iron fist in velvet glove will probably be enough. Notice how diplomatic US and Chinese senior politicos are being to each other recently. I am thinking about going long dollar, short Swiss franc. ![]() |
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But I think the point I'm trying to get at is that there will be many that say "just let the market heal itself", but almost none would be willing to actually see how that happens. |
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just came in to say much the same thing. the original tea party was a protest against taxes levelled against them by those who weren't elected....not so much the case this time around.
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Today is a time to reflect upon the evil that is Obama and veil it in patriotism... |
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I think this a fair point. Ron Paul and the 'Austrian school' economists that influence his ideas advocate a hard line market approach, but they have the luxury that their prescription will probably never be tried - as with the Marxists, I'd argue.
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The Obama administration are truly between a rock and a hard place with no good options, but I trust that they're picking the best of the worst, and doing the best that they can. |
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Economic futility is the breeding ground for many evils. |
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You always need to differenciate between federal and state taxing/spending, especially when you are going to protest one entity. Sales taxes in the US are almost always state issues. The funding of your university maybe as well. So it wouldn't make sense to take it to the streets and protest Bush's or Obama's policies when your arguments are states' issues. I agree it's sometimes complicated, especially when it is mixed issues, but a protest is more effective if aimed at the right person/party. |
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Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm OK paying the same, or even more taxes, so long as they go towards thing that actually help this country and our people (read: not for funding a gazillion dollar "war"). FWIW we live on one salary, pay more a month for student loan payments than a lot of people are paying on mortgages, and drive a lemon that needs more $$$ in repairs than what it's worth, but I like things like public education, health care, roads, parks, libraries, utilities....
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bailing out after massive debt and reckless spending=tea party
getting into massive debt for a war started under false pretenses and tax cuts for the rich=kegger |
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Does anyone have a picture of Glenn Beck in Revolutionary garb? I bet he looked hot. Or Bill O'Reilly? Didn't this idea start on Fox or am I wrong?
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