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I couldn't agree more on that one, I would of grabbed her mic and kept talking, telling her to shut up and let me finish
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My favourite are the people who say that last year they made $255K so this year they're gonna MAKE SURE that they make only $249K because they don't want to be "taxed through the roof" since Obama raised taxes.
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Under the new plan, my mother and my brother actually have less taxes taken out of their paychecks, increasing the amount they take home. I don't get paid until tomorrow, but I think I'll have less taken out of mine too.
I find it hard to feel sorry for people making $255,000 a year. |
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You see? I think this is part of the problem with these tea parties, no one really knows what they are complaining about, I mean some do, some are just hardcore anti-government spending on anything... No one likes deficit spending, but this isn't new, Bush was pretty good at it, so why are some concerned all of a sudden? Yes, we don't like to hear that banks are getting bailed out, but we all like it when the banks can lend for our small businesses. I guarantee you, if this exact stimulous plan was being done by McCain none of these people would be protesting, but like now there would still be complaining on both sides. The only difference would be there would be less talk about corporations and instead of money going to green energies it would be going to drilling in Alaska and it would be the environmentalists protesting on 4/20. |
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And I agree with BVS, when I heard about these tea parties I thought "why?" and when it was not clear to me, I stopped paying attention. The only change in taxes and such that has bugged me was the decrease in the amount of federal taxes withheld, but as a credit. I budget to the penny and I get paid the same amount twice a month so I know when my paycheck is a penny off. I noticed I was making more money, so I went to payroll and they explained the tax credit. Well instead of having more money in my pocket, I adjusted my exemptions and Phil is having a set amount withheld because we like coming out even after we do the annual income tax, if not getting a little back. The payroll guy said I probably would have owed money next year if I hadn't made the adjustments. He said he was worried at how few people had come to him and thinks most people don't notice or don't understand how it works. I guess an extra $50/mo really was too good to be true. |
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It probably was a local tax just know I noticed it recently
![]() I just get e-mails on the higher education thing here from school, as well as a few students in student government who went and protested today etc at the capital. I know I just got a recent e-mail saying that they senate is going over the funding cut again, but I don't know its all confusing now. Most political stuff is lol Now I was a supporter for McCain if McCain have won, wouldn't the Obama people be protesting too? No matter who is in office, people are gonna find something to complain about. You can not make one people happy without making another angry. |
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Just be careful b/c it's a tax credit, meaning they are giving you now the money you'd get back next year, if you get money back. I like getting money back and I always like to err on the side of caution so I adjusted our exemptions so we aren't getting this "break". |
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I went to one today, and it was great. I'd say 600-700 people here in Bloomington, IL. It's really gotten me pretty fired up and angry. And anyone who wants to say that these were partisan events likely did not go to one. There was just as much anger directed at Bush as there was Obama over the spending. It was great to see hundreds of people like me and millions more across the country who, along with our yet-to-be-conceived children are being enslaved and placed trillions of dollars in debt.
By the way, I'm interested in watching Keith Olbermann tonight. Last night he made a big deal about how these things were ultra-partisan and how nobody would show up and how the camera would show nothing but empty seats and how this would all blow up in our faces. Yet even MSNBC couldn't ignore covering the tea parties today, they were such a success. That won't make Keith happy... And that CNN lady was a joke. She should be fired. People who are calling these events nothing but anti-government, extreme-right radical demonstrations clearly must feel threatened by them. At the very least, they have no idea what the hell they're talking about. |
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The Truth is Out There
It is like watching a WTC Truther. |
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Hey 2861, I thought of you today. Glenn Beck is my city today, I drove by the Alamo today to see the crowds but didn't see him.
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And what exactly were you protesting? I'm asking seriously. I mean why didn't people like you protest last year? |
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I don't put too much stock in protests for that reason. So fine, you're angry and pumped. What are you going to do about it? Nothing. Just suffer through it for another four years and you'll have your chance to vote. The only place where you have the chance of making a difference is in local politics, and there are barely ever protests for those... at least where I live ![]() |
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What have these people got against tea??
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What happened to us was that I was getting paid $33 more a month because I was getting taxed $33 less (Federal). Same with Phil except $15 (he makes a lot less than I do). Luckily b/c I get paid the exact same amount every time it was easy to figure out where the "extra" money came from. I didn't do anything about it until someone told me to check with Payroll and they said it was a good thing I was changing my exemptions (I had 1 and went to 0, Phil already had 0 so he is having $15 more withheld automatically). They said the people who might get screwed are those that are married and file jointly, which is us.
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As for why there wasn't anything like this last year- I'm not sure. If there had been local events like this in the fall, protesting Bush's spending and the bailouts and all, I would have probably shown up. I think these suddenly sprouted up because people are seeing that it's both parties who were/are irresponsible and spending money we don't have. |
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![]() I agree with everything you said by the way ![]() We most stop the spending! |
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I hear he doubled the deficit, and maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think all of that can be attributed to the wars and defense. ![]() |
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What should the federal government spend money on? Yeah, I'm sure the fact that it's Obama had nothing to do with it... |
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