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I do think it was a huge mistake for Obama and the Democrats to rush health care while we have 10 plus percent unemployment and are still in a big recession. And to go about it in a closed doors behind the scenes way when he talked so much about transparency. How could they not know that this would create anger and resentment? |
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Believe it or not, if even with a loss in MA, president Obama and the Democrats will have larger majorities in the House and Senate than Bush or Reagan ever enjoyed. Republicans are not the party in power. So for now we'll just settle for the "reaching across the aisle' and "government transparency" all of us were promised. |
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Perhaps it's time to use the "nuclear option" once and for all, and kill the filibuster as a tool for obstructionism. And, yes, I say this with the realization that the GOP will someday be in the majority again (as is typical in the election cycle), and that the Democrats should no longer use it either. |
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His question is that once you guys get some power back, what are you going to do? I mean, seriously, the GOP seems entirely about hating random shit and nothing else. We hate taxes! We hate "liberal progressives!" We hate terrorists/foreign people! We hate big government! We hate the recession! Great. What the fuck are you going to do about it, then? Obviously, you think the people currently working at doing something aren't doing it right. What's your idea? |
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Obama's election, I believe, was a vote for Obama, and not the Democratic Party. Of course, what the GOP doesn't understand, is that it wasn't a vote for the Republican Party either. |
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People who are educated, informed, and can contribute effectively to an intelligent discussion of the issues.
This country isn't about electing people who are to just do whatever you tel them to; this country is about electing people who you think are smart enough to figure shit out and make the right decisions. |
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I mean, it's a tough spot. I have an idea of what I think should happen, but I'm too far to the left compared to most in the country for my particular vision to occur. And I recognize that. This isn't like gay marriage or the death penalty where there's simply right and wrong; in this issue, there are a lot of factors and a lot of smart, well informed people come to different conclusions. Do I think what they've proposed is ideal? No. But I think it's definitely better than the awful system we have right now. And I say this as someone who's fortunate enough to have had parents growing up who could afford everything I needed in health care. |
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Unfortunately too few... and then when someone does feed you an answer you often choose to ignore it because it doesn't fly with your party line.
I've told you and INDY probably about 20 times each why state to state insurance doesn't work and isn't the answer, INDY finally about the 19th time agreed it's the insturance's fault but ignored the aspects as to why the insurance doesn't want to, you've just never acknowled it... ![]() I would say honestly it's about 96% of the right doesn't understand and about 50% of the left still have a very weak grasp on it... |
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I can buy health insurance x in Indiana where I live and yet I'm covered if I break my leg in Colorado. But a resident of Colorado can't buy the identical health insurance policy x across state lines in Indiana and be covered for a broken leg in his home state. How does that make sense? |
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How is it you and the other GOPers keep defending these collective insurance companies but you don't even know how or why they work? Especially someone who claims to be in healthcare? |
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because people who vote GOP aren't interested in facts. they are interested in pure sensation and unbridled Id and getting back at overeducated "elites." |
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Since the other Tea Party Thread is closed I'll post this here
"The Nevada Republican earlier discussed her beliefs on the topic during an interview with Bill Manders in which she called pregnancy in cases of rape and incest, "God's plan." Sharron Angle's Advice For Rape Victims Considering Abortion: Turn Lemons Into Lemonade Stock: Let me bring up one other topic that I rarely talk about here, because it's one of those topics that's a lose-lose, but we've got to talk about it because it was brought up in your TV interview and that has to do with the issue of abortion, and whether or not abortion should be available in the case of rape or incest. The question to you at the time by the interviewer was that do you want the government to go and tell a 13 year-old child who has been raped by her father that she has to have that baby. And of course you responded 'I didn't say that I always say that I value life.' Where do you stand on the issue of abortion, a consensual abortion, from a person who is raped or is pregnant as a result of incest? Angle: Well right now our law permits that. My own personal feelings and that is always what I express, my personal feeling is that we need to err on the side of life. There is a plan and a purpose, a value to every life no matter what it's location, age, gender or disability. So whenever we talk about government and government's role, government's role is to protect life and that's what our Founding Fathers said, that we have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Stock: What do you say then to a young girl, I am going to place it as he said it, when a young girl is raped by her father, let's say, and she is pregnant. How do you explain this to her in terms of wanting her to go through the process of having the baby? Angle: I think that two wrongs don't make a right. And I have been in the situation of counseling young girls, not 13 but 15, who have had very at risk, difficult pregnancies. And my counsel was to look for some alternatives, which they did. And they found that they had made what was really a lemon situation into lemonade. Well one girl in particular moved in with the adoptive parents of her child, and they both were adopted. Both of them grew up, one graduated from high school, the other had parents that loved her and she also graduated from high school. And I'll tell you the little girl who was born from that very poor situation came to me when she was 13 and said 'I know what you did thank you for saving my life.' So it is meaningful to me to err on the side of life. |
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Really ? That's a broad statement. How did you measure that? overeducated "elites." What is this term? How do you measure " overeducared, and what is an elite? what is the measurement for that? Paul McCartney or will Ringo do? |
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