"All the world will denounce the SONY."

[Headache in a Suitcase]

I have a deep hope that Kim Jong Un is also offended by Kevin Hart films

[bono_212]

No way...they really think that North Korea did it?

North Korea Behind Sony Hack: U.S. Officials - NBC News


EDIT: Those tweets at the bottom of the article are stupidly out of touch. Wouldn't expect anything else from the people tweeting them, though.

[Teta040]

I'm just worried that at the very least, this might cause a chilling bout of self-censorship at the studios, you know, stay away from certain subjects and issues, don't offend the large Chinese and "global" market. Even with B-grade comedies.

I for one find it very disturbing that just with a hacking campaign, a foreign country or group has the power now to get movies we make banned in our own country. I can see not having it shown in other countries, but not even here in our domestic markets? And instead of condemning N Korea for this, we're all squabbling amongst ourselves like tittering geese about the emails. Fine, then that gives the CIA the right to throw identical "hacking bombs" at other countries too. Why shouldn't we Americans live up to our current nasty rep, we can't just be the victims of this stuff all the time. I think the govt should get involved, IMO it' s becoming clearer that hacking bombs can do even more damage then actual ones. Fascinating subject for a grad thesis though.

Rogen did something incredibly stupid too. Why use N Korea and its leader by name in their film, esp. when they have such a wealth of knowledge about him being a crackpot. Did they not see something like this coming. Why not have a fictional country that is a dead ringer for N.Korea. Comedians have been doing this since Chaplin in The Great Dictator, and probably before.

[bono_212]

That's what I don't understand. I don't understand why this was greenlit the way it was in the first place. I get that you don't want to censor yourself for the sake of comedic value, but at the same time, what difference did it make to lampoon something, rather than come right out and name it? Or does that take too much thought?

[Teta040]

Exactly. I've been reading up on Mr. Kimmy and he's shaping up to be the looniest of the tunes "leading" N. Korea in a long time. What's going on right now over there is creepily fascinating. It's the end of the 3-yr mourning period for his father, Kim-Jong Il (?) and he's currently cementing his grip on power with a "Godfather"-like wave of targeted killings, including family who get in his way. this would be par for the course in N Korea dynastic struggles but he has now declined to invite China delegates to the funeral of his dad. That has not happened before. Which is signifigant b/c China has wanted to use N Korea as a buffer against against S Korea and other states less sympathetic to Western interests. The fear is that N Korea is pulling away from the more staid China and courting Putin, to make an anti-Chinese alliance. And it's not like China has been keeping its military quiet in that part of the world as of late?

All this should mean nothing for Hollywood, except that if the GfP was tied to Mr Kimmy, then he might actually want to go beyond a hacker attack.
As ludicrous as this sounds, I think Washington should be looking into the "Christmas present" threat, and security around Sony studios beefed up, if it hasn't been already.

Ah well. Enough of this subject for me. I'm too overjoyed at the NY fracking ban right now anyway--my friends are getting ready to go out and celebrate.

[bono_212]

But, but but, didn't you know that the fracking ban is just popularity over science?

The New York Fracking Ban: Politics Trump Science - Forbes

[BigMacPhisto]

Originally Posted by bono_212

No way...they really think that North Korea did it?

North Korea Behind Sony Hack: U.S. Officials - NBC News

Um, it was obvious from Day One that North Korea was behind this...nobody else gives a shit about this movie.

Personally, I think we ended up getting far more entertainment from these e-mails than this film ever could have given us.

[deep]

no one will ever see the movie

A studio spokesman added Wednesday that Sony won’t release “The Interview” in any form, including video on demand or DVD, the movie industry trade publication Variety reported.

With a budget of about $40 million, “The Interview” was predicted to earn around $30 million in its opening weekend. Sony also stands to lose tens of millions in marketing costs already incurred.

[Mrs. Garrison]

As a former soldier who served in South Korea, for once, i have to agree with North Korea on something.

This movie looked horrible. Well done, Lil Kim.

[DaveC]

I think it's a real shame that it ended up coming to this, but yeah the trailers that I saw didn't look very funny. They could have done a better job with the idea from what I've seen (which is admittedly a very tiny amount of the film).


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[mikal]

So....technically, the terrorists won then?

[corianderstem]

If Sony had published The Satanic Verses, they totally would have handed over a gift-wrapped Salman Rushdie.

I think I was more surprised to also hear that a Steve Carrell project about a teacher in North Korea (?) had its plug pulled.

Gee. Great day for creative expression (no matter if the end product sucks ass or not).

[deep]

Studios make decisions based primarily on money.
For some time now they have been changing scripts and editing movies to appease China.

and quite honestly this movie does not have much of a moral leg to stand on.

[corianderstem]

If I understand correctly, it sounds like so many theaters decided not to air it, and Rogen/Franco were not doing publicity, maybe they just decided to cut their losses and have be the "big story" instead of how the movie flopped.

[bono_212]

I'm really not happy about the Steve Carrell part of this story, that really does suck.

[deep]

when the 5 major chains opted out that was 90% of the screens

the GoP, Guardians of the Galaxy have promised a Christmas hack dump that will be even more damaging to the SONY

if not putting it on VOD or any place else can stop that, not releasing it makes sen$e

and going back and reading some of the emails during the process of making this film, what to include?, etc?, is making it hard to defend SONY studios

[corianderstem]

Some theaters were going to show Team America instead, but now Paramount has put the kibosh on that.

What kind of dirt do the hackers have on Sony? Would it really be surprising to learn that people involved in making movies are giant assholes? Possibly with some misogyny, racism and puppy kicking?

[Oregoropa]

It looked hilarious

[deep]

This may be premature, but I don't think Sony Studios will survive,
I think they will be acquired by another studio

the emails have damaged too many relationships and made them look incompetent and just plain stupid, their credibility is shot

sure all of this stuff does probably exist at other studios to some extent, but once it goes public there is no way to undo it


Also, that Steve Carell movie that got canceled was tied to News Corp and Fox, Rupert Murdoch didn't want his New Corp. empire to have its dirty secrets released like Sony's were. That would have been fun.

[deep]

Sony co-chief Amy Pascal, Rev. Al Sharpton talk racist emails, Hollywood 'environment that still resembles 1950s America'