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Old 10-23-2012, 02:35 PM   #441
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Last I checked, which was admittedly a few days ago, Obama had 5+ point leads in Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Virginia, which should about do it.
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Obama has a 2.9 point lead in Ohio (averaged) and a very small 1 point lead in VA, but he is more comfortably ahead in MI, PA and NV. I'm still pretty confident, especially after this last debate. I think the momentum has swung back to Obama.
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Obama has a 2.9 point lead in Ohio (averaged) and a very small 1 point lead in VA, but he is more comfortably ahead in MI, PA and NV. I'm still pretty confident, especially after this last debate. I think the momentum has swung back to Obama.
those numbers look shaky for Obama, the GOP has an iron fist of control in Ohio. All this early voting, Can anyone guarantee, many of those ballots won't end up disappearing? We have had people registering to vote as Democrats only to have the paid GOP worker throw their forms in the trash. If they show up to vote, they will not be allowed.

Some of you may recall the 2000 election. Jeb Bush, then Governor of Florida, in a phone conversation with Al Gore told him his brother would win the vote in Florida. Gore told Jeb Bush 'You do not decide who wins."

Well, who was right?
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It's going to be an intriguing night. I think Obama ultimately wins, but it's going to be tight. Of the states he carried four years ago, he's definitely losing NC this time, and I believe VA and FL could both go to Romney as well. WI, PA, NV and IA will probably still go to Obama. While NH has leaned to the left recently, it's up in the air here. That leaves OH obviously, but another interesting state is CO. They've gone GOP recently except for 2008, but it wasn't that close last time.

And of course, there's always the possibility of a tie...
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I think if there's a repeat of the 2000 fiasco, which ever side loses will not let the results rest easily - moreso than in 2000.
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i think we'll know early -- OH, VA, and FL are all on east coast time. if R loses any one of them, it's over.

also, i was heartened by Obama's last two debates. when he's on his A-game, he's as good as anybody, and it reminded me of when he schooled the GOP republicans back in January of 2010 (?) on health care. anyone who thinks he's nothing more than a cipher with a teleprompter is an idiot.
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They may be on the east coast, but I don't think a winner will be declared in any of those states for a while.
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They may be on the east coast, but I don't think a winner will be declared in any of those states for a while.
Very true. It will come down to specific counties. I could see NH, Penn, and Virginia called rather early.

I definitely plan on being up late that night though. It won't be a 9pm victory like last time.
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This will be the first election that I vote in, as well as the first election that I will be covering live in a newsroom. Should be a crazy night.
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This will be the first election that I vote in, as well as the first election that I will be covering live in a newsroom. Should be a crazy night.

Have fun. Big news events can make a newsroom an exciting place.
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i think we'll know early -- OH, VA, and FL are all on east coast time. if R loses any one of them, it's over.
Good chance for Romney to win the last two. Perhaps even legitimately.

I think Ohio is a less likely legitimate win. But a legitimate win is not the requirement.
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I was impressed with Obama's answers to the foreign policy questions. It inspired confidence. I just wish I could be as impressed with his handling of our economy. I believe we need things like health care but I also believe in being financially responsible. That's how I live my life, because I have to. I think the country should do the same. I know that he's faced opposition from Congress but that can't be an excuse for everything.

I've seen Romney 's act before and I ain't buying. When he said last night that America doesn't dictate to other countries, that was absolutely laughable. I bet much of the world was laughing too.

I wish Obama could be more Clinton like in terms of the economy. I know that it's a different time and he faces different obstacles.

I can't vote for Romney in good conscience, and especially as a woman I feel I have to vote. Because we didn't have that as a birthright when we should have. But I'm not all that thrilled about it, and I worry about the next four years either way.
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I think I'm just going to start drinking now.
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Election Night 2008 is one of the best memories of my life. People literally danced in the streets, strangers hugged each other, and I was in the crowd that went to the White House and sang the "way-aye-hey GOOD BYE."

It was much less about Obama and much more about the end of the hideousness of the Bush years.
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Very true. It will come down to specific counties. I could see NH, Penn, and Virginia called rather early.
I wouldn't call NH early yet. The state is very familiar with Romney; he has a summer home here, and a lot of people seem to like him. Contrast that to the state leaning left in recent years, and it will be very close.
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Actually, it's a dead heat in NH right now. Obama just pulled ahead according to the RCP averages.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:08 PM   #457
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Obama has been spending lots of time in NH, so no way is that going to be called early for him. If he thought otherwise he wouldn't bother.
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Playing around with the electoral map some more, it seems that it really does come down to Ohio.

The following are considered battleground states:

New Hampshire
Pennsylvania
Ohio
Virginia
North Carolina
Florida
Michigan
Wisconsin
Iowa
Colorado
Nevada

I think it's safe to assume that NC will go to Romney, while PA goes to Obama. Then, while not as safe, let's assume recent trends are accurate and FL goes to Romney, and MI and WI go to Obama. That leaves NH, OH, VA, IA, CO, and NV.

Nevada has a big gun in Harry Reid, and they are becoming more like California, so it probably goes Obama.

Virginia has mostly been with the GOP, apart from 2008. Let's say it goes back to them this year.

That leaves NH, OH, IA, and CO.

In this scenario, Obama would only need Ohio out of those final four to win it, and I think it's unlikely he doesn't carry at least one of the others.
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I cringed when he did that. Didn't realize he's 75. I thought he did a very good job.



While prefacing a question for Mitt Romney about Pakistan during Monday's presidential debate on foreign policy, moderator Bob Schieffer had an unfortunate slip of the tongue, referring to Osama bin Laden as "Obama bin Laden."

"We know that Pakistan has arrested the doctor who helped us catch Obama-uh-bin Laden," Schieffer said, seeming to realize his mistake immediately.

The 75-year-old host of CBS' "Face the Nation" quickly recovered: "It still provides safe haven for terrorists, yet we continue to give Pakistan billions of dollars. Is it time for us to divorce Pakistan?"

Schieffer told Politico on Tuesday he was initially unaware of the slip-up: "I saw it in a story last night. I said to my wife, 'Did I say that?' And she said, 'Yeah, you did.'
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also, i was heartened by Obama's last two debates. when he's on his A-game, he's as good as anybody, and it reminded me of when he schooled the GOP republicans back in January of 2010 (?) on health care. anyone who thinks he's nothing more than a cipher with a teleprompter is an idiot.
The Obama that did that in January 2010? I definitely want to see more of him. I REALLY liked it when he did that. Do you think, should he win a second term, we'll see more of that side of his personality come out, the way some people predict?

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This will be the first election that I vote in, as well as the first election that I will be covering live in a newsroom. Should be a crazy night.
Cool . Yeah, that will surely be a hectic day, no doubt, but I bet it'll be fun, too. Hope all goes well for you.
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