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Yes, because women working in 2012 all boils down to kids and cooking, doesn't it? Thanks for that, Romney.
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![]() The last debate will be on foreign policy and I think that is a much weaker area for Romney. He's strongest when critiquing the president on the economy. The opportunities for criticism are fewer in foreign policy, unless he wants to continue to make political hay out of the Libya attack or suggest we bomb Iraq. |
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ok good,
Hannity just said they were going to 'fact check' so we can see how much Obama lied. |
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I don't see what Mitt hiring lots of women has to do with equal pay or Lily Ledbetter.
As for a win I'd say it was a "win" for Obama because he was awake, assertive, and aggressive. Romney was often annoying and off putting. I find the President immensely likable. I just wish his job performance could rise to the level of that, in my eyes. |
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I didn't even bother stopping myself. I definitely was yelling at the tv.
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Fox' focus group could be a skit, this is gold
23 people, that look like they all came from the same gene pool |
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i was all about to go skipping back to #teamobama but then john kerry showed up on cnn, and i just threw up in my mouth a little bit
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Verlander gives up a home run. I blame Mitt. |
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I think it's clear that Mitt Romney had a giant, beach ball sized hanging curve thrown his way, and he went all A-Rod on us and swung and missed.
Benghazi. Romney allowed a giant black mark on the Obama administration to be turned against him over a simple case of semantics. He took an easy zing and turned around and zinged himself. There are incredibly important questions about why the security requests were denied, how an attack was allowed to take place on the anniversary of 9/11, and why the administration tried to lay the blame on a video that it now appears they knew full well wasn't the cause... yet Romney lost that easy, meatball of an argument because he focused on what the definition of the word is is. Baffling... huge moment in the debate. The only thing Mittens has going for him on that one is that the next debate is all foreign policy focused... so he can turn the attention back on the questions that really matter, rather than Barry's use of the phrase terror... but wow what a giant whiff on that one tonight. |
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oh I have a bias for Obama and against Romney
I also can have wrong opinions, I change my opinions and beliefs when I get better information to replace ? less good information I personally feel Obama bettered Romney tonight especially compared to last time. but taking my bias into account I did a slight adjustment and see it being pretty close with each side being able to call their guy the winner. If current polls are correct and Romney is at 49 to Obama 47, gallup has it at 50 - 46 for Romney then this will shake out as a slight win for Romney, and with the momentum going his way, I would call this a slight win for him, a 'net' win. of course I could be wrong, in 4 -5 days, there will be enough polls to come to some kind of consensus and perhaps some change in the polls. |
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Oh no..Ibanez. Is he a legal immigrant?
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Why were the security requests denied? Because the Obama administration just doesn't care about the security of it's personnel? Come on. . . I'd have a lot of questions about the request, what was the nature of the denial, who made the decision to deny additional security and what the reasons were. But that doesn't add up to a callous disregard for the safety of diplomatic personnel by the administration as a whole. Why did they lay blame on the video? Because the Obama administration wanted to hide what. . .? It seems more reasonable to conclude that the facts simply weren't clear at the time. Also reasonable, is that they may not have not wanted to admit that they didn't see the attack coming. Still it would be rather foolish to put the blame on the video when you know full well that the video wasn't responsible. They would have had to know the truth would come out so an intentional misplacing of blame would have been pretty dumb. Finally, I just don't see the Libya attacks being the great game-changer when it comes to Romney vs. Obama on foreign policy. It wasn't in tonight's debate. I don't think it will be in the final debate either. |
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one poll, from Huffington site
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i think a CNN poll that just came up is fairly interesting... people tend to think Obama won, and I can see that.
__________________80+% seem to think that Obama did the same or better than last time, which is the most obvious thing in the world... but what i find interesting is that some 70 odd percent thought that Romney was the same or better than the last debate... split about evenly between better or the same... and CNN said the debate was 33% democratic, 38% republican, and the rest identified as independent... i dunno if it means anything at all... and we'll see a ton more numbers coming out soon... but i do find it interesting that the opinion of anyone who isn't a democrat either didn't change or got better on Romney after this debate. so basically... even though Obama probably won here, did he win by enough to slow down Romney's momentum? will be interesting to see how things play out in the next few days... |
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