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Old 08-27-2019, 06:05 PM   #121
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Mexico City does have a lot of little things edited out from the original broadcast, but all the songs are present.

I totally forgot that elevation Boston and Slane are both not the full shows in the DVD.

Wasn’t there a rumor that E+I Berlin would be announced in September for a release later in the fall? I sure hope so. I can’t imagine anything being cut from that, because each song was so important to the NARRATIVE!
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Old 08-27-2019, 08:28 PM   #122
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That version of Mysterious Ways buried in the Slane DVD extras is top stuff
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Old 08-28-2019, 12:10 AM   #123
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Where the fuck is a R& H anniversary release with a full Tempe show?
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Old 08-28-2019, 12:30 AM   #124
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I think it’s been said that U2 likely don’t own the R&H footage. If true then full Tempe or Denver may never happen.

Even so, the biggest travesty is the lack of an offical Lovetown video release.

Maybe they are holding back on the nostalgia given these remaining JT30 shows. Going forward though, there are no excuses. Release the damn stuff. Don’t take it to your graves.
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I'd guess e/i video release in time for black Friday, as they still care about shit like that for some reason. They'll then release the audio from the show as the 2020 fan club gift.

JT30 video next year at some point. Probably in time for Christmas again, cause U2. JT30 audio as fan club gift for 2021.

No sniff of new album talk until the end of 2020, at which point we'll hear that the edge is on fire, they're lost in the music, it's some of the best stuff they've ever recorded, it'll be on a special new format that implants a fucking chip into your brain, blah blah blah.

They'll say they're close but needed to rewrite some songs to account for the shocking election of Bill de Blasio. They'll rewrite one fucking song to include references about being tall and late or some shit. This will be the single.

Actual new music will feature a neutered edge (with one rawk song of crunchy rawk riffs... probably the aforementioned Tall And Late In America), have moments of brilliance but ultimately be frustrating, and will not be implanted into your brain.

Release rumored/planned for late 2021 but not actually released until spring 2022, cause Edge is waiting on gzus to walk into the portico or some shit like that #U2022

Revolutionary arena tour will begin in late 2022... in the US... and will feature a giant video screen and a stage that brings the crowd "closer than ever before." Some dope here will think that the show will involve giant holographic Bono's, but they'll really just take the vertigo stage and put the i/e/i screen over it and call it a day. With lasers.

Tour will to through summer of 2023. Rumors will then start about taking the show to Australia. This won't happen, because the band feels they need to get back right away and record, as they've been writing on tour with new producer Lil Nas X and feel they can release the new album right away.

Right away turns to 2025. In between they celebrate the anniversary of No Line On The Horizon by playing the album in full on the #3601090210 Tour.

They go back on tour again with a new stage, which is the same as the last tour, but, like, green this time. They don't play any No Line songs on tour because of the last tour. Nobody notices. They still don't play Australia.
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Headache has been to the future. And, it’s better.
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:46 PM   #127
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Old 08-28-2019, 04:22 PM   #128
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if that's the future (I don't doubt it) then it doesn't need a kiss, it needs to be avoided.
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Headache...that was...poetic...
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Old 09-02-2019, 01:28 AM   #130
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Unless they can coax Eno and Lanois into the studio for one more go round, they outta nix the idea of another album and just start opening the vault.
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Old 09-02-2019, 03:29 PM   #131
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Songs of Experience - 1 Year Later

Andy Barlow was an absolute winner on SOE. He was involved in Red Flag Day, and drove or completely produced Love is all we have left, Little Things, Landlady and Book of You Heart.

He and Declan Gaffney are the two producers who have really gelled with the sound over the last 10 years. I want to see what a cohesive album would sound like with them in control.
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Andy Barlow was an absolute winner on SOE. He was involved in Red Flag Day, and drove or completely produced Love is all we have left, Little Things, Landlady and Book of You Heart.

He and Declan Gaffney are the two producers who have really gelled with the sound over the last 10 years. I want to see what a cohesive album would sound like with them in control.


100% agree and I listened to a few tracks from SOE lastnight, The Blackout, Love is All We Have Left and 13, and I’m falling in love with this album all over again. Brings back so many memories from the tour and I think this album will be more and more appreciated as the years go by and truly feels like a bookend to the next chapter.
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Andy Barlow was an absolute winner on SOE. He was involved in Red Flag Day, and drove or completely produced Love is all we have left, Little Things, Landlady and Book of You Heart.

He and Declan Gaffney are the two producers who have really gelled with the sound over the last 10 years. I want to see what a cohesive album would sound like with them in control.
Well said. Those are probably my top 5 from SOE (I include Book of your heart on mine).
While the album overall has some other great songs (13, Lights of Home, Summer of Love)
Those stand out to me.

I would love to see them at the helm next time around.
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Frustrating because those are some great songs and yet the album as a whole falls apart becuase there is so much unlistenable, cringe-inducing crap that destroys any sense of flow or cohesiveness, not to mention credibility...
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Frustrating because those are some great songs and yet the album as a whole falls apart becuase there is so much unlistenable, cringe-inducing crap that destroys any sense of flow or cohesiveness, not to mention credibility...


Which is exactly why I want Barlow in charge with no lillywhite/pop fanboy muddying of the waters.

Dec Gaffney is a genius - imagine getting him to work on song development to give it a Fish Out of Water style structural rethink, but with Barlow’s production and atmosphere.

My personal dream has been a mini album of 8 great songs, and a second disc with Fish Out Of Water rethinks of every song.
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Barlow/Gaffney/Flood please.

I also had an idea that it would probably be really cool if Jeff Lynne produced a U2 record, but I think that would have happened already (c. R&H), if ever at all.
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I think Jeff Lynne is more of a songwriter's producer. U2 just don't write songs in that way very often. The same reason Rick Rubin didn't work out.

I'd like for U2 to just stick with 1 or 2 producers next time, for cohesion purposes.
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I actually think Rick Rubin is the blame for the shift in style for the band.

They’re so focused on crafting a tight pop song, and that’s never been their strength. They’ve had a few successes

But their biggest hits are still so unique compared to the 3 min verse chorus bridge chorus format they’ve been doing since ATYCLB
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I actually think Rick Rubin is the blame for the shift in style for the band.

They’re so focused on crafting a tight pop song, and that’s never been their strength. They’ve had a few successes

But their biggest hits are still so unique compared to the 3 min verse chorus bridge chorus format they’ve been doing since ATYCLB


Unfortunately, b/c of the dominance of hip hop, mainstream relevance can only be attained by a rock band through a tight pop song.
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A rock band in their 60s can write the tightest fucking pop song in the history of tight pop songs and they still wouldn't attain chart relevance.
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