Seperating the rumors from the facts (Passengers)

[LemonMelon]

Originally posted by BANZAI
Indeed a POSSIBLE great time to be a U2 fan:

November 2007: Joshua Tree release incl. DVD

February/March 2007: Release first and only single 'Passengers' album

March/April 2008: Release new 'Passengers' album

September 2008: Release first single new U2 album

November 2008: Release new U2 album

February/March 2009: Start of New Tour

November 2009: DVD New Tour



Or am I being too optimistic?!

x3

My bet: new album 2008, Passengers project in 2010.

[Dorian Gray]

here's a little bit from Eno, courtesy of Q mag, via atu2

On this record [Eno is currently working with U2 again], we didn’t start out with the idea, “OK, we’re going to make another U2 album.” We’re just going to make music. And what we’ve done so far doesn’t sound like another U2 album, but I think it will do.”

[Snowlock]

Originally posted by Dorian Gray
here's a little bit from Eno, courtesy of Q mag, via atu2

On this record [Eno is currently working with U2 again], we didn’t start out with the idea, “OK, we’re going to make another U2 album.” We’re just going to make music. And what we’ve done so far doesn’t sound like another U2 album, but I think it will do.”

I think they'll hold the Passengers project until after the major U2 release. Probably something to coincide with the tour or as insurance incase the new album doesn't do well they have something in the hopper to keep fan interest kindled.

This U23D thing.... it's making me nervous now. It doesn't make sense to have a major release of an old tour if the new one is just on the horizon (assuming U23D is supposed to come out fall 2008). It just doesn't fit an optimistic fan schedule. What does fit is this:

Fall 2007 Joshua Tree remaster
Fall 2008 Passengers II & U23D
Fall 2009 LP13
2010 Tour for LP13

The other thing is, LP13 has no announced producer yet and that leads me to believe that they haven't decided on the sound. The beach clips were ATYCLB-y, the stuff with Rubin was supposed to be very Beatlesesque, and Bono has also mentioned that maybe then need to rock much harder. I'm starting to think these november sessions are them going back to basics.

[BVS]

Originally posted by Snowlock


I think they'll hold the Passengers project until after the major U2 release. Probably something to coincide with the tour or as insurance incase the new album doesn't do well they have something in the hopper to keep fan interest kindled.

This U23D thing.... it's making me nervous now. It doesn't make sense to have a major release of an old tour if the new one is just on the horizon (assuming U23D is supposed to come out fall 2008). It just doesn't fit an optimistic fan schedule. What does fit is this:

Fall 2007 Joshua Tree remaster
Fall 2008 Passengers II & U23D
Fall 2009 LP13
2010 Tour for LP13

The other thing is, LP13 has no announced producer yet and that leads me to believe that they haven't decided on the sound. The beach clips were ATYCLB-y, the stuff with Rubin was supposed to be very Beatlesesque, and Bono has also mentioned that maybe then need to rock much harder. I'm starting to think they're back to basics.

I thought we had a confirmed January release for U23d.

Plus if we have Corbijn already working on artwork, then I believe they already have an idea of the direction.

Your schedule is confusing, you first say they will release the passengers after the album, but then you have them releasing first.

[Utoo]

Originally posted by Snowlock


I think they'll hold the Passengers project until after the major U2 release. Probably something to coincide with the tour or as insurance incase the new album doesn't do well they have something in the hopper to keep fan interest kindled.

I think it makes more sense to do the opposite: Release the Passengers project first because they're coming off of two critically-acclaimed, well-selling albums. They have room to play. Then release the major U2 album afterwards in case the Passengers one is met with raised eyebrows.

This U23D thing.... it's making me nervous now. It doesn't make sense to have a major release of an old tour if the new one is just on the horizon (assuming U23D is supposed to come out fall 2008). It just doesn't fit an optimistic fan schedule.

U23D is coming out in January.

[Snowlock]

Originally posted by BonoVoxSupastar


I thought we had a confirmed January release for U23d.

Plus if we have Corbijn already working on artwork, then I believe they already have an idea of the direction.

Your schedule is confusing, you first say they will release the passengers after the album, but then you have them releasing first.

I'm working, sue me.

[The_Edge89]

Originally posted by Snowlock

The other thing is, LP13 has no announced producer yet and that leads me to believe that they haven't decided on the sound.

U2 started working with Chris Thomas in February, 2003. And from the comments in U2 By U2 I presume that they wanted a release in the fall that year but since that deadline already was passed when the band members couldn't agree with one another about whether to keep the songs as they were or rework them, it was pushed back into 2004.

Therefore they called Steve Lillywhite in to work with them in the fall of 2003 until the album release in 2004.

The conclusion is that they started working with a producer less than a year before they had planned to release the album and I presume that they could do that again.
Of course we can't know for sure when the album is planned to be released but hopefully during 2008 and perhaps we will find out in the beginning of next year who will be in charge of producing the next U2 album.

[BVS]

Originally posted by Snowlock


I'm working, sue me.

Calm down. Just trying to clear up things.

[Snowlock]

Originally posted by BonoVoxSupastar


Calm down. Just trying to clear up things.

Who's not calm? just working and *trying* to type. Don't be so sensitive.

[LemonMelon]

November 2007 - JT Reissue

January 2008 - U2 3D

February through June 2008 - Utter silence. People start bitching.

July 2008 - New clips leak, rumors start spreading about an imminent new album.

September 2008 - Single #1 released.

October 2008 - New album released.

November 2008 - Promo tour begins. U2 plays gigs in old, abandoned Dublin strip clubs.

January 2008 - Single #2 released. Still no b-sides. But a crappy Jacknife Lee mix of Mercy is released with it.

March 2008 - Proper tour begins. U2 flips off every continent except for North America and Europe. I shout for joy!

June 2008 - Single #3 released. Still no b-sides.

January 2009 - Rumors leak out that a new project is being worked on. Passengers II?

February 2009 - A PLEBAn asks Edge about this project and he starts laughing hysterically. Interference groans.

November 2009 - The previous rumors appear to be true. To buy themselves time, U2 release best of 2000-2010 even though it's not 2010 yet.

June 2010 - Passengers II leaks onto the internet. It clearly has nothing to do with Passengers, but folks stubbornly call it that anyway.

August 2010 - Passengers II is released.

March 2015 - Out of sheer boredom, folks argue about whether or not Passengers II should count as a U2 album.

[elevated_u2_fan]

Originally posted by LemonMelon
January 2009 - Rumors leak out that a new project is being worked on. Passengers II?

February 2009 - A PLEBAn asks Edge about this project and he starts laughing hysterically. Interference groans.

November 2009 - The previous rumors appear to be true. To buy themselves time, U2 release best of 2000-2010 even though it's not 2010 yet.

June 2010 - Passengers II leaks onto the internet. It clearly has nothing to do with Passengers, but folks stubbornly call it that anyway.

August 2010 - Passengers II is released.

March 2015 - Out of sheer boredom, folks argue about whether or not Passengers II should count as a U2 album.

That sounds about right to me...

[Snowlock]

Originally posted by LemonMelon
November 2007 - JT Reissue

August 2010 - Passengers II is released.

March 2015 - Out of sheer boredom, folks argue about whether or not Passengers II should count as a U2 album.

lol, shouldn't that date be revised from march 2015, to November 2007?

[Utoo]

Originally posted by LemonMelon
June 2010 - Passengers II leaks onto the internet. It clearly has nothing to do with Passengers, but folks stubbornly call it that anyway.

Best part!

[LemonMelon]

Originally posted by Snowlock


lol, shouldn't that date be revised from march 2015, to November 2007?

It's really an and/or kind of thing. Such discussion is certainly happening now, but it will likely happen then as well. I think that's one of the more obvious predictions I made. That's like expecting the sun to rise in the east tomorrow.

[BVS]

Originally posted by Snowlock


Who's not calm? just working and *trying* to type. Don't be so sensitive.

Instead of "sue me" which is generally accepted as a snarky remark, you could have just clarified which one you really meant. So yeah, it sounded like you weren't being calm.

[BANZAI]

Originally posted by BonoVoxSupastar


Instead of "sue me" which is generally accepted as a snarky remark, you could have just clarified which one you really meant. So yeah, it sounded like you weren't being calm.

Sue him!

[BVS]

Originally posted by BANZAI


Sue him!

What's a good amount...